Crash Test Video Measurements For Cybertruck Dimensions

[Dusty]

The question is whether that's inside the line, outside or in the middle. You lose me on the cart.

The bottom line is that the bumper bar is in between the lines that make 18ft-19ft square.

18ft (216") is way too short by all estimates. Based on the overhead picture when the truck nose touches the wall, it's physically impossible for it to be longer than the 19ft mark.

So, as far as the floor marks the only question is exactly where the back end is between the 18<--->19 marks. With knowing theres a very low probability that its less than 220" in length and absolutely not more than 228" at the longest.

Personally, there's no way it's longer than 225" based on a few other factors.

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[cvalue13]

I think people are so fascinated with the dimensions because it looks massive, standing by itself. However it's the same size as an F150.

Do we know if all models will have rear-wheel steering, as I'm hoping to have one easy to park in crowded Austin?

Well, subject to all the caveats of accuracy across the OP and subject discussions, to the extent my measurements in this thread are correct:

The CT is in most respects smaller than an F150 (importantly, not to suggest by inference any certainty of lack of capability compared to F150 - on the contrary, some of these smaller stats I think are net positives for the CT compared to an F150):

(1) Width (dissimilar due to fender flare differences):

• F150 (SCREW): 79.9" absent fender flares (e.g., metal-to-metal width)
• CT (Crash):
  • ~79.8" including fender flares
  • ~73.16" excluding fender flares (e.g., metal-to-metal width) + ~4.5" of fender flares
  • F150 DELTA: CT is identical including its fender flares, and CT is ~6.74" narrower, metal-to-metal (i.e., excluding fender flares)
  • Unveil On-Screen Stats: 79.9"
• TACOMA (4DR SHORT BED): 75.2" (including minimal fender flares and wheel well bulge)

(2) Length (nose-to-tail):

• F150 (SCREW): 231.7"
• CT (CRASH): 222.8"
  • F150 DELTA: CT is ~8.9" shorter
  • Unveil On-Screen Stats: 231.7"
• TACOMA (4DR SHORT BED): 212"

(3) Wheelbase:

• F150 (SCREW): 145.4"
• CT (CRASH):140"
  • F150 DELTA: CT wheelbase is ~5.4" narrower THAN
  • Unveil On-Screen Stats: 149.9"
• TACOMA (4DR SHORT BED): 127.4"

@greggertruck maybe you can get a rise via tweet out of your buddy Elon with the above 3 categories of dimension estimates?

The numbers above are the headline ones most verifiable in my measurements (which is not to say they're not subject to a margin of error, as described elsewhere above), and that relate to the three previously known stats from the on-screen data at unveil (the on-stage prototype at unveil had different dimensions).

As a result of the above headline measurements (e.g., CT being narrower metal-to-metal than an F150)), however, there are some reasonable inference consequences (e.g., the exterior metal-to-metal being narrower than an F150, entailing possibly that the CT interior is narrower than an F150), which inferences do at least square with other measurements I took. These interior, etc., measurements were more of an exploratory matter, and subject to a greater rate of error than the exterior measurements, but for the sake of chatter (the below measurements marked in brackets to flag this relative reduction in accuracy)

(A) Front Seat Shoulder Room:

• F150 (SCREW): 66.7"
• CT (CRASH): [~61"]
• TACOMA (4DR SHORT BED): 58.3"

(B) Front Seat Distance Between Seats:

• F150 (SCREW): "
• CT (CRASH): [~ "]
• TACOMA (4DR SHORT BED):

(C) Rear Seat Shoulder Room:

• F150 (SCREW): 66.7"
• CT (CRASH): [~58"]
• TACOMA (4DR SHORT BED): 58.9"

(D) Rear Seat Leg Room:

• F150 (SCREW): 43.6" (MAX)
• CT (CRASH): [~33"] (unknown front seat position)
• TACOMA (4DR SHORT BED): 32.6" (unknown front seat position)

(E) Depth of Bed @ Upper Aperture (different designs)

• F150 (SCREW): 66" (traditional design)
• CT (CRASH): [~60"] (between tailgate and sill overhang above rear window - see photo below, labeled yellow "X")
• TACOMA (4DR SHORT BED): 60.5"" (traditional design)

(E) Depth of Bed @ Bed Floor (different designs)

• F150 (SCREW): 66" (traditional design)
• CT (CRASH): [~72"] (between tailgate and bulkhead, at floor - see photos above and below purple "Y" including the measure from crash test photo - which I've added since OP)
• TACOMA (4DR SHORT BED): 60.5"" (traditional design)

The remainder of these photos (plus the one immediately above) I think collectively will self-describe how I arrive at the estimate for the total bed length at floor:

 

[cvalue13]

From the side, we know the tire size, right? can we not take that size and figure out how big the grid is? From there, we should be able to figure out the length with some reasonable amount of accuracy.

The issue is that the visible grid is a few feet closer to the camera than the wheel used as reference. Accordingly, it presents the critique that perspective has thrown off the measure between wheel reference and grid.

Now, I actually think these photos are set up in such a way that such distortion is very minimal near the vehicle.

But you'll never satisfy the critics this way

though I should add: in the overhead shot, the ~4" distance between floor and waisteline of CT likely would cause perspective distortion in either direction - same may or not be true of the side views.

again, reasons i didn't use this methodology to measure - and used the rim diameter to measure items more exactly on (or very newar) the same distance from camera

 

[CyberGus]

I love this truck. But it's smaller inside. It's not a "real truck" in a lot of eyes, but that's beside the point.

He can't be a man 'cause he doesn't smoke
The same cigarettes as me

 

[CyberGus]

Now, I actually think these photos are set up in such a way that such distortion is very minimal near the vehicle.

But you'll never satisfy the critics this way

I can't wait until they release the full crash video, and we start trying to measure all the parts that go flying

 

[cvalue13]

I'm pretty sure the squares are 12" by 12". The question is whether that's inside the line, outside or in the middle. You lose me on the cart.

If theyre 12”, you can choose wherever you like as the relevant reference point so long as you’re consistent in both ends of your measure (eg measure from leftmost edge of one line to leftmost edge of the next line, etc.)

 

[cvalue13]

I can't wait until they release the full crash video, and we start trying to measure all the parts that go flying

by then, someone in this forum will have taken delivery

 

[greggertruck]

Well, subject to all the caveats of accuracy across the OP and subject discussions, to the extent my measurements in this thread are correct:

The CT is in most respects smaller than an F150 (importantly, not to suggest by inference any certainty of lack of capability compared to F150 - on the contrary, some of these smaller stats I think are net positives for the CT compared to an F150):

(1) Width (dissimilar due to fender flare differences):

• F150 (SCREW): 79.9" absent fender flares (e.g., metal-to-metal width)
• CT (Crash):
  • ~79.8" including fender flares
  • ~73.16" excluding fender flares (e.g., metal-to-metal width) + ~4.5" of fender flares
  • F150 DELTA: CT is identical including its fender flares, and CT is ~6.74" narrower, metal-to-metal (i.e., excluding fender flares)
  • Unveil On-Screen Stats: 79.9"
• TACOMA (4DR SHORT BED): 75.2" (including minimal fender flares and wheel well bulge)

(2) Length (nose-to-tail):

• F150 (SCREW): 231.7"
• CT (CRASH): 222.8"
  • F150 DELTA: CT is ~8.9" shorter
  • Unveil On-Screen Stats: 231.7"
• TACOMA (4DR SHORT BED): 212"

(3) Wheelbase:

• F150 (SCREW): 145.4"
• CT (CRASH):140"
  • F150 DELTA: CT wheelbase is ~5.4" narrower THAN
  • Unveil On-Screen Stats: 149.9"
• TACOMA (4DR SHORT BED): 127.4"

@greggertruck maybe you can get a rise via tweet out of your buddy Elon with the above 3 categories of dimension estimates?

The numbers above are the headline ones most verifiable in my measurements (which is not to say they're not subject to a margin of error, as described elsewhere above), and that relate to the three previously known stats from the on-screen data at unveil (the on-stage prototype at unveil had different dimensions).

As a result of the above headline measurements (e.g., CT being narrower metal-to-metal than an F150)), however, there are some reasonable inference consequences (e.g., the exterior metal-to-metal being narrower than an F150, entailing possibly that the CT interior is narrower than an F150), which inferences do at least square with other measurements I took. These interior, etc., measurements were more of an exploratory matter, and subject to a greater rate of error than the exterior measurements, but for the sake of chatter (the below measurements marked in brackets to flag this relative reduction in accuracy)

(A) Front Seat Shoulder Room:

• F150 (SCREW): 66.7"
• CT (CRASH): [~61"]
• TACOMA (4DR SHORT BED): 58.3"

(B) Front Seat Distance Between Seats:

• F150 (SCREW): "
• CT (CRASH): [~ "]
• TACOMA (4DR SHORT BED):

(C) Rear Seat Shoulder Room:

• F150 (SCREW): 66.7"
• CT (CRASH): [~58"]
• TACOMA (4DR SHORT BED): 58.9"

(D) Rear Seat Leg Room:

• F150 (SCREW): 43.6" (MAX)
• CT (CRASH): [~33"] (unknown front seat position)
• TACOMA (4DR SHORT BED): 32.6" (unknown front seat position)

(E) Depth of Bed @ Upper Aperture (different designs)

• F150 (SCREW): 66" (traditional design)
• CT (CRASH): [~60"] (between tailgate and sill overhang above rear window - see photo below, labeled yellow "X")
• TACOMA (4DR SHORT BED): 60.5"" (traditional design)

(E) Depth of Bed @ Bed Floor (different designs)

• F150 (SCREW): 66" (traditional design)
• CT (CRASH): [~72"] (between tailgate and bulkhead, at floor - see photos above and below purple "Y" including the measure from crash test photo - which I've added since OP)
• TACOMA (4DR SHORT BED): 60.5"" (traditional design)

The remainder of these photos (plus the one immediately above) I think collectively will self-describe how I arrive at the estimate for the total bed length at floor:

Your 3rd to last image is a weird crop dude.

You really think they dropped a whole 18" from the bed? I'm confused.

 

[cvalue13]

Your 3rd to last image is a weird crop dude.

You really think they dropped a whole 18" from the bed? I'm confused.

no no

about 6” dropped from bed floor length, total

then from the bed floor the bulkhead leans in towards the tailgate about 6”

then from the top of the back window there’s a sill/overhang back towards the tailgate that is another about 6”

so the bed floor is about 6’, while the leaning bulkhead + sill overhand all lean back over the bed floor about another 12”

this is how the bed and bulkhead area looks from the side (though the cartoon is from thr OG proto, it still shows the concept) - the sill/overhang is in yellow

 

[TheLastStarfighter]

If theyre 12”, you can choose wherever you like as the relevant reference point so long as you’re consistent in both ends of your measure (eg measure from leftmost edge of one line to leftmost edge of the next line, etc.)

No. If the square gap is 12" but does not include the lines, the distance line to line is actually 12 1/4". By not including the width of the lines, you're about 4" short at the end.

 

[MEWoodsMFG]

HEY

 

[TheLastStarfighter]

The bottom line is that the bumper bar is in between the lines that make 18ft-19ft square.

18ft (216") is way too short by all estimates. Based on the overhead picture when the truck nose touches the wall, it's physically impossible for it to be longer than the 19ft mark.

So, as far as the floor marks the only question is exactly where the back end is between the 18<--->19 marks. With knowing theres a very low probability that its less than 220" in length and absolutely not more than 228" at the longest.

Personally, there's no way it's longer than 225" based on a few other factors.

Oh, I see. Well the squares don't start at the wall, so you may have to add another half-square. And we don't know the size of the squares, and if they are 12", is that the size within the lines or including them. I suspect it's the size within. Adding 4" or so from the line width total, and also the gap before the squares start, I suspect the truck is more than 225" as previously measured at Investor Day.

 

[greggertruck]

no no

about 6” dropped from bed floor length, total

then from the bed floor the bulkhead leans in towards the tailgate about 6”

then from the top of the back window there’s a sill/overhang back towards the tailgate that is another about 6”

so the bed floor is about 6’, while the leaning bulkhead + sill overhand all lean back over the bed floor about another 12”

this is how the bed and bulkhead area looks from the side (though the cartoon is from thr OG proto, it still shows the concept) - the sill/overhang is in yellow

Kinda figs that's what you meant.

I'll start by saying I think it may in fact be closer to 6" NOW.... But, the seats seem to lean back further now too.

I took this pic yesterday when I was fondling the OG. That overhang is 3-4" then/ there.

 

[cvalue13]

No. If the square gap is 12" but does not include the lines, the distance line to line is actually 12 1/4". By not including the width of the lines, you're about 4" short at the end.

you’re right only if Tesla created a ‘12” grid’ that’s actually a 12.25” grid - which would be stupid (and not a 12” grid”)

how this works is so incredibly simple that I’m at a loss for how to even describe it

If someone like Tesla were making a 12” grid they wanted to use for measuring, they would make the lines to be standardized to one or more of the following 3 measurement references - or if they’re really smart they have all 3 at once, by making the lines themselves 1” wide

put differently:

imagine a yard stick. it also has lines. And if you’re using a ruler correctly, you also choose one edge, or dead middle, of the lines of the ruler to measure.

the distance between 0 and 12” is the exact same distance between 1” and 13” as is the distance between 1.25” and 12.24”

 

[TheLastStarfighter]

you’re right only if Tesla created a ‘12” grid’ that’s actually a 12.25” grid - which would be stupid (and not a 12” grid”)

how this works is so incredibly simple that I’m at a loss for how to even describe it

If someone like Tesla were making a 12” grid they wanted to use for measuring, they would make the lines to be standardized to one or more of the following 3 measurement references - or if they’re really smart they have all 3 at once, by making the lines themselves 1” wide

put differently:

imagine a yard stick. it also has lines. And if you’re using a ruler correctly, you also choose one edge, or dead middle, of the lines of the ruler to measure.

the distance between 0 and 12” is the exact same distance between 1” and 13” as is the distance between 1.25” and 12.24”

why do you think the floor grid is for measuring?

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