Cybertruck can now charge up to 325kW on select V4 Superchargers!

[scottf200]

I'm not sure how many minutes of real world charging this will be in 10%-70% road tripping.
It does not seem significant. 5-8 minutes?

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[Carlos Thomas]

Nice little bump in speed, but the charging curve is what needs to be addressed. That bump in speed is not worth driving a little more out of the way. Not enough time savings.

 

[REM]

I’ve got a legit question though, I just got my beast 2 weeks ago and since we get 3 months free super charging, I’m taking full advantage of that and not charging at home at all. I have charged at several different v3 sites, which should give me up to 250kw speeds if the battery is low and preconditioned, which I always do. I’ve plugged in a few times below 10% battery, which should give the full speed capability as it has before on my Model y and Model 3. But the max speed I’ve seen my Cybertruck charge is is around 180ish kw, never above 200kw at all. Is that something I should have service look into? Has anyone else experienced this?

Nah, your truck is fine. It will always be "up to" the maximum specification because there are so many factors involved here; ambient temperature being a huge one.

 

[cyberjeff25]

When will the auxiliary battery become available??? That should almost double the range —-

 

[AlDente]

The real question is the charge curve, not just peak. If it only maintains 350 from 10-15% SOC then drops like a rock this could be a meh story ... Calling Kyle Conner

 

[HaulingAss]

Limited by location, not vehicle.

I believe ~200kW (or less) flow is typical across the supercharger fleet.

Not true at all.

My experience with V4 Superchargers is that I plug in and it goes right up to 252-253 kW right away. But this is on a road trip where the battery can pre-condition for as long as necessary to achieve peak speeds. There's one of the V4's capable of 325 kW about 30 minutes out of my usual way, but I've never tried that one.

If you are trying to get as much free electricity as possible with your 3 months of free charging, you are just wasting your time (assuming you have to sit in your car at a local SC and wait for it to charge to 80%) because there is not enough time to precondition the battery to hit peak charging speeds. I have a Model 3 Performance that has Free Supercharging for life and I never use it except when I'm on a long roadtrip. It's just not worth my time to go out of my way compared to simply plugging in at my home and cabin.

I recently took a trip to Reno in my Cybertruck and my longest charging stop was only 22 minutes except for one stop that I charged higher than I needed to (because I wasn't ready to hit the road that quickly). And I took the shortest, most rural route, with more sparse Supercharging rather than sticking to the Interstate. Even on the rural highways I was able to set FSD to cruise at 72-73 mph for hours on end at temps below freezing (or just above freezing).

In other words, even the 250 kW max chargers are great for road-tripping, going to 325 kW max will only shave a couple of minutes off (or maybe only a minute). So, What would have been a 22 minute rest break would be a 20 minute rest break. Not very significant in most situations.

My experience has been people that complain about slow charging speeds simply haven't learned how to keep the battery between 10% and 60%, they expect it to act like a gas vehicle.

 

[AlDente]

I’ve got a legit question though, I just got my beast 2 weeks ago and since we get 3 months free super charging, I’m taking full advantage of that and not charging at home at all. I have charged at several different v3 sites, which should give me up to 250kw speeds if the battery is low and preconditioned, which I always do. I’ve plugged in a few times below 10% battery, which should give the full speed capability as it has before on my Model y and Model 3. But the max speed I’ve seen my Cybertruck charge is is around 180ish kw, never above 200kw at all. Is that something I should have service look into? Has anyone else experienced this?

If true (and I assume it is) this is ridiculous. My 2018 Model X has that peak charge number. My 2021 Model Y consistently hit over 200kw peak with any v3 charger. I'd put in a service request just to see what they say ...

 

[SCTesla]

When will the auxiliary battery become available??? That should almost double the range —-

Almost double? That's a massive exaggeration. If talking about the range extender, it adds, at most, 130 miles on paper. So maybe a bit less than 100 miles at speed.

 

[CTSoFL]

How long does it typically take for preconditioning to be effective?

 

[rrizzi7210]

They have to upgrade the power supply as well as the cabinets and the dispensers.

They may not have for the following reasons:

1. The cabinets waiting on new permits
2. The grid supply is insufficient
3. There's no room to place batteries to make up the difference
4. Only the dispensers needed replacement
5. The parts were only available for one or the other at the time they did the last revision

I'm getting the idea they decided they needed more time before going live with the high power service. Remember, to upgrade this you need to upgrade the grid connection, the cabinets, the dispensers, the software, and test the battery packs that to make sure all of these things are working.

-Crissa

Keep in mind the local building & zoning municipality has ZERO incentive to process permits. They basically do whatever they want, whenever they want with ZERO accountability to those who are paying for the permits. Government at its best!

 

[HaulingAss]

How long does it typically take for preconditioning to be effective?

I noticed my Cybertruck starting preconditioning about an hour before arriving at the next Supercharger. But when charging at successive Superchargers it might drop down to 45 minutes (probably because the motors and battery retain some heat).

The sooner you start pre-conditioning in cold weather, the more efficient it will be. That's because it has time to gently warm the battery using waste heat from the motor, inverters and computer instead of purposefully running in a lossy manner to generate extra heat.

In cold weather a Tesla will be gently warming the battery, even if it doesn't say "Pre-Conditioning battery for maximum charging". This means you want to Supercharge to 60-80% when the battery and motors are already warm, before parking for the night.

Of course, if you know you will have destination charging, then you can arrive with a low state of charge and fill up to 80-100% with free electrons. If you are the type of road-tripper who only covers 300-400 miles per day (probably because you find it boring to drive straight through without seeing any of the attractions), you can get almost all your electricity for free, assuming you have destination charging and more than an 8-hour overnight stay.

This requires a certain amount of thought if you are new to EV's, but after a while it will become second nature, and you will barely have to think about it.

 

[rrizzi7210]

How long does it typically take for preconditioning to be effective?

40 minutes at 65 mph at 75F.

 

[CTSoFL]

40 minutes at 65 mph at 75F.

I didn't realize it took that long...interesting...

 

[Crissa]

Keep in mind the local building & zoning municipality has ZERO incentive to process permits. They basically do whatever they want, whenever they want with ZERO accountability to those who are paying for the permits. Government at its best!

While the incentives for processing permits is often insufficient -

• More permits means more money
• More inspections means more money
• More development means more tax revenue both property and sales
• Half-finished things means less sales tax revenue
• Not finishing the permitting process will get them voted out eventually

So not exactly zero.

-Crissa

 

[scottf200]

Nice little bump in speed, but the charging curve is what needs to be addressed. That bump in speed is not worth driving a little more out of the way. Not enough time savings.

Here is a short charging video starting at 5% on one of the newly 'authorized 325kW' V3 cabinet chargers.

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