Cybertruck Front Casting Analysis (and Frunk Implications) - 3 vs 2 Chickens

[cvalue13]

As ever, this is not intended as spot-on by any means, but instead to put rough magnitudes at comparison.

I took the two overhead photos of F150 and CT, and scaled the CT photo down by the 2.2% reduced length compared to a Lighting (232.7 vs 227.5), and then created comparative overlays of the Frunk footprints (darker area the floor, lighter area the ceiling). All in order to get a roughly scaled, roughly sized, overlapping compare of the two Frunk volumes and locations relative to vehicle

As stated elsewhere, the Lightning frunk is 14.1 cubic feet of volume. If we assume the CT frunk has roughly the same height on average, then the eyeballed relative volume appears to be about 1/2, maybe a bit more give than take. Call it 8 cubic feet?

As we've still not seen the CT's "tub" trim, it's impossible to know how minimalist or impactful that tub trim will be to the available volume - the overlays below assume basically minimalist impact.

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[Dusty]

Did you take into account the CT hood is inclined. The profile of the bonnet's coverage surface is a touch different when you account for foreshortening.

 

[cvalue13]

Did you take into account the CT hood is inclined. The profile of the bonnet's coverage surface is a touch different when you account for foreshortening.

account for it towards what end, exactly?

that if true the CT's hood is more inclined, that the CT's frunk height could/should be shorter than the F150?

maybe though I'm not yet understanding the question


to give a proportional magnitude of the shape of the CT front end vs the F150 (in this case, Raptor) front end:

• the two photos below have been scaled to the identical 35" tires both the CT and Raptor run
• the yellow line across the bottom roughly pairs the two truck's lower door sill as reference (Because in this photo the Raptor's raised a bit more than the CT)
• the CT's nose outline in red is transposed over the Raptor's

Transposing the CT's dash board, hood, grill, and wheel arch lines over the Raptor, shows the relative size and shape of the true "nose" of the two vehicles - ignoring the mere appearance differences created by the CT's forward windshield/A pillar placement

 

[RVAC]

Begs the question, why is that the case given the front end dimensions seem to be roughly the same?

 

[Dusty]

Raptor can run 37" from the factory, you may want to confirm your image.

Mainly, I'm just saying that an inclined hood changes the volume. When viewed from above the foreshortening of the hood may be deceptive when accounting for the volume you're ballparking. Just making a note, that's all.

 

[cvalue13]

Begs the question, why is that the case given the front end dimensions seem to be roughly the same?

i think you mean why is there more guts in the CT between frunk and dash?

while not all that helpful of an addition here but: purely a packaging constraint + crash design outcome, combining among other things, eg.

• CT could have better/larger thermal systems (visible in CT frunk)
• CT is 5" shorter, but has 7" more bed, meaning excluding the bed the CT has a total of 12" less length in which to pack everything else
• CT still might be a bit narrower than F150 for all we know?
• CT's equivalent of it's 'rolling chassis' perhaps takes up more volume than the Lightning's
• then whatever the case, there's some amount of 'crumple' room still needed?

In all, CT may simply have as much or more 'stuff' with fewer/smaller places to put it - that space between frunk and dash is where about *everything* lives


check out the rolling chassis of the Lightning - obviously one would have to put the cab on there, but structurally the lack of both a motor or any front casting makes for a sort of free-for-all

what's really wild is that the Lighting frunk doesn't even use all the space available in the Lightning. Behind the Lightning's rear frunk wall is only a 12v batter and the steering linkage, but probably a waisted 4 square feet of space... i assume also a matter of available 'crumple' space for things to pack into before intruding into the cab?

 

[cvalue13]

Raptor can run 37" from the factory, you may want to confirm your image.

it's the right question no doubt

and for the same reason when i chose the image i found one of a Gen 2 purported to be running factory 35s

and in any event since gen 2's can't run 37s without leveling and collars (it's the gen 3 that ford offers an OEM 37, but with frame modifications), when a gen 2 Raptor is on 37s the difference is notable

 

[cvalue13]

Was able to spin up the laptop for a few

Based on the relative proportions of the Frunk lid's relief for meeting a frunk lid seal, I've revised my guestimate of what the shape of the frunk will be

also, @CyberGus check out the BAW giblets (in red) - almost feels dirty looking at it

looks like the back wall of the frunk is likely to slope up the casting wheel wells, making for a narrower floor footprint but a wider top end aperture

also, the outermost width is more interior to the hood based on the gaps between the frunk tub outline (in red) as relates to the L/R sides of the hood

 

[CyberGus]

I keep thinking the bench in front of the truck is the Boston Dynamics robot dog

 

[Albern]

also, @CyberGus check out the BAW giblets (in red) - almost feels dirty looking at it

What stood out to me is that there is additional space for a second BAW on the passenger side.

 

[newwave1331]

looks like its enough to fit a golf bag

Probably have the take the woods out of the bag. Stand or a slim cart bag might fit but a thicker staff/cart bags may not. The frunk should be able to take most long gun bags too.

 

[CyberGus]

Probably have the take the woods out of the bag. Stand or a slim cart bag might fit but a thicker staff/cart bags may not. The frunk should be able to take most long gun bags too.

What kinda golf do you play lol

 

[newwave1331]

What kinda golf do you play lol

mini golf.... You dont think we got 12-14 inches of depth? Are you thinking length would be an issue?

 

[CyberGus]

mini golf.... You dont think we got 12-14 inches of depth? Are you thinking length would be an issue?

Wondering what the long gun is for?? I guess I would definitely let you play through

 

[newwave1331]

Wondering what the long gun is for?? I guess I would definitely let you play through

Better to come prepared. Not all slow players have your golf etiquette.

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