Cybertruck is MID"SIZE" pickup truck, prove me wrong....!!!

[samson]

Ok proving you wrong... Rivian is not a mid-sized truck ergo, even if your guess was right that it is Rivian sized, it would not be mid-sized. It would be in between mid and full sized.

https://www.thedrive.com/news/40527/heres-how-big-the-2022-rivian-r1t-adventure-truck-actually-is

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rivian_R1T

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[Coolbreeze704]

Cybertruck Owners Club where size matters.

The above addition to the name of the club should be added as I have concluded this forum is all about size. Must be why there are so many ED adds that pop up.

 

[John K]

Cybertruck Owners Club where size matters.

The above addition to the name of the club should be added as I have concluded this forum is all about size. Must be why there are so many ED adds that pop up.

You do know those adds are personalized, right?

 

[RVAC]

I understand your opinion.. and the defense of that opinion seems to be.. every truck has always come with a spare...

It does not appear that Tesla respects the standard of that is how it has always been done.. and does not find that justification for doing something <and btw that standard is no longer true as the rivian doesn't have a spare standard it is an add on>

I attempted to find some numbers on what percentage of trucks ever use their spare but couldn't find it... we all know the AVERAGE truck doesn't go to work sites.. doesn't haul ... doesn't go off road. it simply drives around the urban jungle escort hooligans <aka kids> to sporting events and shopping. this is a relatively new thing in trucks... why would the AVERAGE truck need a spare tire.. and even if it had one, with free roadside service is the average soccer mom going to change out a spare instead of watching netflix till help shows up?

we each have our opinion.. and they are based on what we believe are sound reasons in a month or three we will KNOW if it comes with a spare!! now if you have some stats on spare usage in the us by car type.. that would be interesting to see!

I'm not saying it has to come with one as standard but it should have the space to carry one as an option just like the Rivian, which by the way is a smaller truck and also has an air compressor on board.

Personally I can live without one, I'm not thrilled by the prospect but it's not a show stopper. However I can see people who do not care for the design of the Cybertruck as much look elsewhere. It also plays right into the hands of those saying the Cybertruck is a lifestyle vehicle and to be fair it's increasingly hard to blame them for thinking that given what appear to be some of the design decisions they've been making.

 

[Coolbreeze704]

You do know those adds are personalized, right?

I do.
A little levity to add to the size matters joke. My pop ups are much more boring. Mobile Home Supply, Ram Rev , and Rivian

 

[Art138]

Narrower than the Raptor

Hopefully! I need to fit this beast in my three car garage.

 

[CyberGus]

I do.
A little levity to add to the size matters joke. My pop ups are much more boring. Mobile Home Supply, Ram Rev , and Rivian

 

[Glenn]

It's all relative. The most important thing is what the actual specs are, and how the Cybertruck fits into a garage (or not), a driveway, parking, and how useful we can make it. It doesn't matter what some people want to call it. It matters where it can fit and what can fit in it.

Until one can actually reference a recognized definitive standard of length, width, height, or size that actually specifies what a 'Mid-Size', 'Full-Size', etc. truck is, then a descriptor label is really just anyone's point of view and therefore kind of moot.

Never mind anyone proving someone wrong. To prove the point right, you need two things, which are the actual Cybertruck specs, and a recognized standard of metrics for comparison.

I'm not seeing either one of those in this thread.

- ÆCIII

It's all relative, I say this at my shop very often.

 

[Prime8]

Since we're talking size. Is anyone worried about the rear seats for passengers? (I'm not, it will be almost 100% used for tools etc. for me). The door comes up pretty high and the roof slopes down, I know the roof is glass but it might feel a little tight back there....I'm never going back there but some people are considerate of their friends and family (not me either )

 

[Greshnab]

Since we're talking size. Is anyone worried about the rear seats for passengers? (I'm not, it will be almost 100% used for tools etc. for me). The door comes up pretty high and the roof slopes down, I know the roof is glass but it might feel a little tight back there....I'm never going back there but some people are considerate of their friends and family (not me either )

i am single no kids.. so mostly those seats will be folded down to make it a flat storage area... IF someone goes back there for a ride.. i don't want em getting to comfy anyway.

 

[firsttruck]

I am still pretty firmly in the believe that tesla will continue to include free roadside assistance and no spare tire.. it has worked for them for a long time.. and i suspect they will stick with the formula that has worked.

For their cars it makes sense for a truck less so.

Yup, I agree truck market is different than cars.

Most sedan/compact SUV EVs in U.S. & Europe have fairly low ground clearances, are almost always driven in areas with paved roads and fairly close to tire service or close to service. For tire issue it does not need to be a EV service specialist. Most ICE gas/diesel station that have service bays or standard tire shops or tow trucks can handle EV tire issues.

Much higher % of trucks will be used on dirt roads, non-roads and many more truck trips will be far away from service options including more places that don't even have ICE gas/diesel pumps (no less service bays) or will require long distance, multi-hour, expensive tow truck trips.

 

[cvalue13]

Since we're talking size. Is anyone worried about the rear seats for passengers? (I'm not, it will be almost 100% used for tools etc. for me). The door comes up pretty high and the roof slopes down, I know the roof is glass but it might feel a little tight back there....I'm never going back there but some people are considerate of their friends and family (not me either )

For me, interior space is the #1 deal-killer. For reasons of both people and cargo - the rear area of eg an F150 is as useful as any bed with tonneau or Frunk.

while I’m reserving judgment for actual specs and reviews, the available information and inferences to date has me concerned about interior space

that concern for interior space essentially transferred to an interest in external dimensions, as a proxy indication for whether/why interior space may seem so constrained

I don’t actually *care* about exterior dimensions - I park in a driveway, and all else equal smaller exterior dimension are better

I only care about exterior dimension to the extent they betray the probability of the CT’s interior dimensions

that said my primary concerns on interior dimensions are legroom and shoulder room, and provision of three full back seats.

secondarily, the things you point out also do weigh on me. While I’m not concerned about headroom so much (because I think that is a dimension Tesla has leverage on given the battery pack), I do think the glass back there is very minimal at the sides/back, and even accounting for the panoramic roof glass could feel a bit claustrophobic even if the dimensions are ok.

worse if all worlds is both feeling claustrophobic and being small.

almost any other spec they could reneg and n and I’d gloss over it

but for my use cases, the f the CT interior room is more like a Rivian than an F150, it’ll be a heartbreaker

 

[BayouCityBob]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rivian_R1T

Thanks! Fixed

 

[Crissa]

the only non touchy feely requirements i can find are for canada...

Class	GVWR in kg (pounds)	Curb weight in kg (pounds)	Frontal area in m² (square feet)
Light light-duty truck	2,722 (6,000) or under	2,722 (6,000) or under	Max 4.2 (45.2)
Light-duty truck	3,856 (8,500) or under	2,722 (6,000) or under	Max 4.2 (45.2)
Heavy light-duty truck	Over 2,722–3,856 (6,000–8,500)	2,722 (6,000) or under	Max 4.2 (45.2)
Heavy-duty vehicle	Over 3,856 (8,500)	Over 2,722 (6,000)	Over 4.2 (45.2)
Medium-duty passenger vehicle	Same as heavy-duty vehicle	Under 4,536 (10,000)	Same as heavy-duty vehicle

everything else is all judgemental like this...

• Compact/mini: Also known as Utes (utility vehicle) in some regions, these small trucks are more popular internationally than in the USA. They have a small bed and mild engine. Example: Chevrolet S10
• Mid-size: These are popular trucks with those who want towing and hauling functionality at their disposal, but also enjoy driving a truck as a passenger vehicle on a daily basis. Example: Chevrolet Colorado
• Full-size: These are the most widely-popular trucks in the USA and make up much of the segment’s sales year after year. Their payload capacity sets them apart. Example: Chevrolet Silverado 1500
• Heavy duty: These large pickup trucks often have V8 engines, tremendous strength, and sometimes even doubled rear tires. Example: Chevrolet Silverado 2500 HD, 3500 HD

with no facts.. just comparison based..

so... in answer to your question.. as near as I can tell in the US a truck is what the manufacturer lists it as.

Why are all these definitions not... cargo based?

Like, gross weight and frontal area say nothing of how efficient/capable the vehicle is at carrying cargo. Which is like, the point of a truck?

-Crissa

 

[Greshnab]

Why are all these definitions not... cargo based?

Like, gross weight and frontal area say nothing of how efficient/capable the vehicle is at carrying cargo. Which is like, the point of a truck?

-Crissa

Are you really asking why no governmental agency has made a sensible rating system for trucks?
8)

ok without the humor .. I THINK it is because the terms we use for trucks.. light duty etc are all made up by the makers of the trucks to segregate the customers and make em into easy to handle groups...

most governing bodies really only care about number of tires and number of axles for passenger cars and trucks. it is only when you get into tractors with loads that they start to care about weight.

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