Cybertruck is MID"SIZE" pickup truck, prove me wrong....!!!

[Crissa]

I know why licenses are classed by weight, but ugh, vehicles should be classed by cargo capacity.

-Crissa

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[CyberGus]

I know why licenses are classed by weight, but ugh, vehicles should be classed by cargo capacity.

-Crissa

You're so classist, geez

 

[Greshnab]

actually i agree with Crissa ... i was VERY surprised to find out there is no set definition that defines what exactly a light truck is or a heavy duty.

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[Deleted member 17810]

Y'all all wanting a huge truck

Where's my two seater ?

 

[TBONO]

Why are all these definitions not... cargo based?

Like, gross weight and frontal area say nothing of how efficient/capable the vehicle is at carrying cargo. Which is like, the point of a truck?

-Crissa

I’m not sure, but maybe has something to do with the fact that most trucks have different length beds you can choose from in the same platform?

also, many trucks used to have different cab options no cab plus cab, super cab etc. so maybe all these configurations make it difficult
Just guessing though

 

[PilotPete]

Based on the Canada chart, I remove the rear hatch on MY. Gross weight approximately 5200 lbs to 5500 lbs.

What classification truck did I convert the MY into?

While my question was a bit rhetorical, we need a definition to classify the truck.

Otherwise, I state the CT’s classification is MULLET. (Prove the classification wrong)

My CT will identify as a BASC, with a BAW, and a BAF, and looks totally BA.

 

[firsttruck]

My CT will identify as a BASC, with a BAW, and a BAF, and looks totally BA.

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[intimidator]

From the recent alpha prototypes it is clear that Cyber truck downsized to Midsize category putting it in competition directly with the Rivian R1T.

Midsize comparison is by overall dimension and not by towing / payload number which I think might drop from original release.

I have attached pictures of the Truck in comparison.

Rivian vs F150 Lightning

Rivian vs Cybertruck

Cybertruck vs Tacoma

I don't want to pigeon hole it as "mid-sized" just yet. Heck last year we were all afraid it wouldn't fit in our garages and that it was going to be longer than a Ford F250.

If it's OUTSIDE dimensions are slightly less than the Ford Lightning, that will be a good thing. IMO.
I say it will be Goldilocks size. Not too huge. Not too small. Just right.

 

[Crissa]

I’m not sure, but maybe has something to do with the fact that most trucks have different length beds you can choose from in the same platform?

also, many trucks used to have different cab options no cab plus cab, super cab etc. so maybe all these configurations make it difficult
Just guessing though

Okay, but, the weight and bulk of the cargo doesn't change all that much between the options.

-Crissa

 

[charliemagpie]

The thing is a truck, concerns over interior leg and headroom

 

[TBONO]

The thing is a truck, concerns over interior leg and headroom

Work crews at electrical companies, plumbing companies, etc. often commute long distances to get to the job site in trucks…

 

[Ogre]

You asked where I got it from and I provided an explanation, wasn't stated as a fact. At this point saying it hasn't changed from 150" is equally speculative given we know dimensional changes have been made to other parts of the truck.

Yes, exactly.

In short, if the reduction in wheelbase is less than the reduction in length then that could explain the lack of space for a spare between rear axle and tow hitch.

I wasn’t replying to you. Wasn’t even thinking about you at the time.

”The lack of a spare”

There is no indication the distance from the rear of the truck to the rear axel has changed much at all. You seem to be thinking there was a spare there before but somehow it’s been shrunk away, but I seriously doubt this is the case. It’s maybe 4” shorter and it’s pretty clear that at least a couple inches of that comes off the front.

I don’t think there was ever a spare underneath the truck.

 

[CyberT]

The dude on the Right must be like 10' tall

 

[PilotPete]

Don't forget "ASS" (Actually "works" Smart Summon)

Ok, My CT will identify as a BASC, with a BAW, and a BAF, is equipped with BA-ASS, and looks totally BA.

 

[cvalue13]

i was VERY surprised to find out there is no set definition that defines what exactly a light truck is or a heavy duty.

Since Crissa has me blocked I can’t see what she says, but I’m not following this confusion

See e.g., 49 CFR § 523 et al.:

“Non-passenger automobile means an automobile that is not a passenger automobile or a work truck and includes vehicles … designed to [t]ransport property on an open bed.”

“Pickup truck means a non-passenger automobile which has a passenger compartment and an open cargo area.”

“Light truck means a non-passenger automobile meeting the criteria in § 523.5”

“Full-size pickup truck means a light truck or a medium duty passenger vehicle that meets the specifications in 40 CFR 86.1803-01 [the air standards compliance regs]

“Medium duty passenger vehicle means a vehicle which would satisfy the criteria in 523.5 (relating to light trucks) but for its gross vehicle weight rating or its curb weight, which is rated at more than 8,500 lbs GVWR or has a vehicle curb weight of more than 6,000 pounds or has a basic vehicle frontal area in excess of 45 square feet, and which is designed primarily to transport passengers, but does not include a vehicle that -​

(1) Is an “incomplete vehicle” ' as defined in this subpart; or​

(2) Has a seating capacity of more than 12 persons; or​

(3) Is designed for more than 9 persons in seating rearward of the driver's seat; or​

(4) Is equipped with an open cargo area (for example, a pick-up truck box or bed) of 72.0 inches in interior length or more. A covered box not readily accessible from the passenger compartment will be considered an open cargo area for purposes of this definition”​

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“Heavy-duty pickup trucks … are pickup trucks … with a gross vehicle weight rating between 8,501 pounds and 14,000 pounds (Class 2b through 3 vehicles) manufactured as complete vehicles by a single or final stage manufacturer or manufactured as incomplete vehicles as designated by a manufacturer.”

“Work truck means a vehicle that is rated at more than 8,500 pounds and less than or equal to 10,000 pounds gross vehicle weight, and is not a medium-duty passenger vehicle as defined in 49 U.S.C. 32901(a)(19) [fuel economy regs].”

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