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Plants get about 6% with photosynthesis.

-Crissa
Some algae up to 95% of available light... of course they live in low light environments so the band width is filtered
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Does it? Will you notice 3% at all? I doubt Elon will be happy with losing 3% of cargo/passenger space, so it probably didn't lose that.

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Launch photos showed a cavernous CT inside. You are not going to notice nor be cramped in 77” O.A. should CT narrow. My Chev Tahoe == 77” O.A. It is generous for 5 large adults.

Cargo bed remains 6.5 LF. Tesla must compete on industry standard spec. There is no imperative to change height O.A. Length is a hard parameter with safety first design.

No one wants an El Camino or Ranchero. So I just don’t see Tesla carving away passenger volume to shave length O.A.
 

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I was just horsing around. You mentioned shrinkage. I thought you may get a chuckle out of a Seinfeld reference. It was a failed joke.

I wouldn’t dismiss the truck until you see it. They may get creative with the design. They may shave off the width from the plastic around the wheel. you may not feel the difference as much as you think. Give it a chance
The first thing that came to mind when shrinkage is mentioned is the Seinfeld episode when the gang goes on a trip to the Hamptons and after being in cold water Elaine's friend walked in on George in a bathroom who was naked and starts laughing at him and of course George was being very dramatic
 

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Did anyone else notice the comment of the Cybertruck range only being up to 300-something because of aerodynamics?! I'm going to cry if my tri-motor doesnt come close to 500 like originally suggested.
My guess is Elon was referring to the lowest range CT
 

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My guess is Elon was referring to the lowest range CT
Lowest range was listed at 250, but would be nice if they did get that one up to 300. Heck, if they would push the dual motor to 400, I'd likely change my tri order to a dual.
 


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I'm really glad about the size reduction as long as it doesnt affect the size of the bed. I don't want some giant thing on the road, i just need to get the job done. Pick-ups today are unnecessarily large.
 

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Did anyone else notice the comment of the Cybertruck range only being up to 300-something because of aerodynamics?! I'm going to cry if my tri-motor doesnt come close to 500 like originally suggested.
He did say he was talking about the base model ~ which os an incredible upgrade from 250 miles!
 

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Or remove the single motor and have only dual and tri. As I thought he said at start 300... like other models no says there will be a single motor... then later removing it. For those that say a smaller CT is ok, or that trucks are too big as is.. I'm assuming are currently not Truck owners... at least to fully utilize trucks as trucks. End of that day this is NOT a sedan or crossover. It's a CyberTruck which should be BadA$$. Sorry if the truth hurts but I don't care of "what if's" as there are thousands of what if's.
 

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I have heard his name before but never watched any of this stuff. Is his deal that he brings in a guest as an audience and then just goes adlib about anything while the guest gets uncomfortable? ?

Anyway, CT being too big for the boring tunnel seems like a really bad reason. Is the Boring Company really trying to get all these big tunneling jobs without being able to adjust the size of the tunnel they offer? Was the test tunnel perfect and the limiting factor for all their designs now? I’m sure there were other reasons for the shrinkage. One reason could be to make it just a notch closer to a world truck as they’re usually smaller elsewhere, while still keeping essential bed size etc. Another could be to fit inside a typical (full size) garage. Or maybe there was some “wasted” space in the 3% bigger one. Maybe wind tunnel testing dictated resizing? Is it more proportional design-wise now? I don’t know but that just sounded like a good anecdote, like the one about him ordering the rockets to be more pointy because of a movie.

Nice to get some new info though. Thanks!
Only dude who’s never heard of Joe Rogan ?
Or remove the single motor and have only dual and tri. As I thought he said at start 300... like other models no says there will be a single motor... then later removing it. For those that say a smaller CT is ok, or that trucks are too big as is.. I'm assuming are currently not Truck owners... at least to fully utilize trucks as trucks. End of that day this is NOT a sedan or crossover. It's a CyberTruck which should be BadA$$. Sorry if the truth hurts but I don't care of "what if's" as there are thousands of what if's.
I don’t think they will drop the single motor for a while. My limited understanding of the economics of it suggest that they are really banking on the single motor for fleet sales and commercial useage, not to mention getting that base price for a crew cab below 40k to keep it on par with the F150 and competitors.
 


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For anyone interested, do a google search of "perovskite solar cells". 40% efficiency seems like it may not be too far away. More efficient, inexpensive, flexible, works in low light.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/14/energy/solar-energy-perovskites-spc-intl/index.html
This is fantastic if it works, I love seeing the free market and social capitalism solving this. First step is more efficient panels, step 2, figure out how to scale and make them affordable to mass produce and incorporate into building construction.
 

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I don’t think they will drop the single motor for a while. My limited understanding of the economics of it suggest that they are really banking on the single motor for fleet sales and commercial useage, not to mention getting that base price for a crew cab below 40k to keep it on par with the F150 and competitors.
Now that Single would be coming out last instead of first, due to demand. By the time the single would come out the eF150 *should* be out and this that would be Tesla's competitor. And no longer the ICE F150.

I'm not saying don't get the Single, I'm just looking at history and timeliness of releases.
 

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I think the juice is not worth the squeeze for CT manufacturing because the largest surface to work with is broken to small moving pieces and it is probably a pain to work with. As a customer, I still would want it on the hood at least no matter how small the charge is (Provided, it does not add too much to the cost). Tesla loses charge overnight. Just getting that back during the day would be nice. I am sure there would be aftermarket solutions.

one after market thought; I think you could have a flexible rolled solar cell at the tailgate. Attach it to the vault cover when you want sun juice. Opening the vault would roll it out for use. That way it does not have to be a part of the vault cover.
I would like to see a Stainless Steel roof with solar option on there and the Frunk lid which would be more practical and less prone to wear and damage.
 

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He did say he was talking about the base model ~ which os an incredible upgrade from 250 miles!
If the 250 mile base model does come out closer to 300 miles instead, that would be amazing.

Patiently waiting from my TriMotor...
 

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I don't understand the fascination with solar panels on top. Maybe you can charge all day to crawl a few miles at night like a Martian rover. It might be a nice capability if you're trying to stay off the grid in the Gobi Desert and don't have any time constraints.
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