PCS Failure - Can’t charge at all

[Black306]

You wanna swap out your own PCS? I'll subscribe to that YouTube channel

If my truck was out of warranty, I'd do it. Outside of coughing up $2k for a part, it'll be fun.

I will have to pay the $6400.

Part is $1.8k....labor is ~$1.1k (4.2hrs @$250/hr)... say ~$400 for coolant, sealant, tax, misc.....what is the other ~$3k for??

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[mongo]

If my truck was out of warranty, I'd do it. Outside of coughing up $2k for a part, it'll be fun.





Part is $1.8k....labor is ~$1.1k (4.2hrs @$250/hr)... say ~$400 for coolant, sealant, tax, misc.....what is the other ~$3k for??

Device cluster assembly was also replaced.

 

[Outdoors]

Well yeah, I never made a secret of the fact that I didn't fit in nor own any Teslas pre-Cybertruck.

As to why Tesla changed the architecture of separate charger modules to PCS, I'd guess there were a few reasons:
The under seat setup was vulnerable to liquids spilled in the back seat
The process required unbolting and refastening a bunch of HV connections
The overall assembly was much more expensive and complex than an integrated unit
Minimal isolation from the HV to the cabin in the event of a fault (somewhat similar to old VWs with the battery under the seat) .

I even offered you my charger replaced out of my S as you thought years ago (like 5)that the Tesla T was pretty cool as it was CNC'd into the cover.

There is no way any spilled liquids could get into that. So come up with some other guess. Not so powerful when AI can't help you. And as far as actually knowing the hours that it can be done, I actually watched it done in my garage. Yes, back when most of you don't remember that Tesla came to your house and would do work. I watched my 48 amp charger turn into a 72 amp charger right in front of my eyes in my garage as I was drinking a beer. His name was Ricky. He also installed my rocker panel backwards.

Again whole bunch of keyboard warriors that have no experience in Teslas. Sure, there can be people with no experience. But let's not try to hide it and just use AI as our tool of choice.

 

[CapheDa]

If my truck was out of warranty, I'd do it. Outside of coughing up $2k for a part, it'll be fun.





Part is $1.8k....labor is ~$1.1k (4.2hrs @$250/hr)... say ~$400 for coolant, sealant, tax, misc.....what is the other ~$3k for??

Two parts needed replacing.

 

[Black306]

Two parts needed replacing.

Looks like they are double charging on labor. Doesn’t make sense that it’ll take an additional 3.84 hours to replace the cluster when they’re already in there replacing the PCS. Unless the whole job takes ~8 hours and that’s just how they split the labor. Don’t know Tesla’s book time or if they even publish that info.

 

[mitch9]

New Flash: Tesla has a LONG history of charging $$$$ to repair/replace a faulty design/part

Example: I owned a 2013 Model S, VIN under 4,000 (yes, one of the first Model S's ever manufactured), it's what I traded in for the 2025 Dual Motor Cybertruck.

in my 12 years of ownership, I have lost count of service center visits, it is well north of 50 though.
(never, ever be an early adopter, as the saying goes "The early adopters get the arrows")

I stopped repairing things at about year 9-10 and just lived with them, for the most part.

in Year 7, my heater stopped working. This was the "PTC Heater". It blew out, took out the HV converter and a wiring harness. That repair cost me over $5,000. This was a defective design, from the very begining (similar to the 3 generations of Model S door handles that I went through), but they refused to cover it, even though it was a faulty / problematic design from day 1

BTW, I had the extended warranty as well, but that only lasted 6 years. I am sadened to see they are continuing the practice, with another design/manufacturing issue with the PCS. They really need to "man up" and take responsability for their design/manufacuring issues. But of course they fully intend to orphan the Cybertruck, so they do not care.

 

[mongo]

Looks like they are double charging on labor. Doesn’t make sense that it’ll take an additional 3.84 hours to replace the cluster when they’re already in there replacing the PCS. Unless the whole job takes ~8 hours and that’s just how they split the labor. Don’t know Tesla’s book time or if they even publish that info.

Great point, it calls out 275 an hour so 2505.25 is 9.11 hours.
Device Cluster is 3.84, PCS is 4.20 for 8.04 plus 1.07 diagnostic.
They should have adjusted the time due to the overlap of PCS and Device Cluster.
Removing/ replacing the cover is 3.18 hours.
Correction code 1630010101 1630010102
At a minimum , that should be subtracted.

 

[mongo]

I even offered you my charger replaced out of my S as you thought years ago (like 5)that the Tesla T was pretty cool as it was CNC'd into the cover.

There is no way any spilled liquids could get into that. So come up with some other guess. Not so powerful when AI can't help you. And as far as actually knowing the hours that it can be done, I actually watched it done in my garage. Yes, back when most of you don't remember that Tesla came to your house and would do work. I watched my 48 amp charger turn into a 72 amp charger right in front of my eyes in my garage as I was drinking a beer. His name was Ricky. He also installed my rocker panel backwards.

Again whole bunch of keyboard warriors that have no experience in Teslas. Sure, there can be people with no experience. But let's not try to hide it and just use AI as our tool of choice.

Yep, I totally didn't think about the S changing from the charger modules to a PCS. It should have been obvious to me that going through the seat would not take 4 hours, but I was thinking PCS and did not take the time to read the full procedure. But you know what, I put my assumption in my post so it was easy to catch my error. Just like I link to source data whenever I can, and call out when I'm going from memory or opinion.

Speaking of opinion, that list was my own creation created at your request, not AI.
I do use AI sometimes to find references, moreso Google though. For non-failed Cybertruck issues, I also go to the parking lot.

 

[CapheDa]

Great point, it calls out 275 an hour so 2505.25 is 9.11 hours.
Device Cluster is 3.84, PCS is 4.20 for 8.04 plus 1.07 diagnostic.
They should have adjusted the time due to the overlap of PCS and Device Cluster.
Removing/ replacing the cover is 3.18 hours.
Correction code 1630010101 1630010102
At a minimum , that should be subtracted.

Thank you and great catch! I’m going to bring that up when I pay my bill.

 

[mongo]

Thank you and great catch! I’m going to bring that up when I pay my bill.

Oh, you haven't paid yet? Awesome!
I'll check for other overlaps then.

Edit: nope, rest of procedures are unique.

 

[jenkins007]

This happened to me as well. With my wall charger connected to power share. I double checked to make sure it was the car and not the wall charger or power share devices by plugging directly in using 60 amp direct cord 220 V. Same error message so that definitely indicated the vehicle. I schedule service the following Monday. They had it fixed in one day. Mine is still under warranty though so no charge.

 

[kpanda17]

Thank you and great catch! I’m going to bring that up when I pay my bill.

if this is Dustin on X you saw I helped push this to resolition

don’t forget to DM @Wes and get into detail, center address, your account, names handling the repair

best of luck

 

[Outdoors]

Any causation by PowerShare usage? I haven't. How many failures come from dual power users?

 

[CapheDa]

if this is Dustin on X you saw I helped push this to resolition

don’t forget to DM @Wes and get into detail, center address, your account, names handling the repair

best of luck

Yes that’s me. I’ll DM him now. Thank you for your help.

 

[kpanda17]

Yes that’s me. I’ll DM him now. Thank you for your help.

Brother from a different mother cannot pay $6300

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