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Yeah it seems like this is a midsize truck interior. This is gonna be more like a 4 adults and 1 tiny child.

Sadly its not gonna be fleetable for me
Many states are loosening their child labor laws. The seating capacity you describe matches what a standard work crew will be in the near future. ?
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The longevity of a control is not determined by whether it's a switch or a button, but by the duty cycle of the design. Tesla has the data on how often turn signals are activated per mile, on average and the 10% of users who are the heaviest users of signals, and are very data driven to design reliability into their vehicles in excess of one million miles.

I think your concern is unfounded.
 

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ok the enormous flat dash looks straight ridiculous
I can deal with the a pillar blind spots but some people are going to hate that
Looks like they are trying to help ('get around') that with the large triangled glass.

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The more I think about it, the more the lack of stalks might become a dealbreaker. I'm happy they dropped the yoke, but I could have just about lived with that if it had stalks. That's the real control issue I had. Touch buttons are bad enough for operations like indicating (try doing that when the wheel is turned), but the lack of a direction changer is going to be horrible when towing stuff, when your focus is going to be on looking around and back at the trailer, not on the touch screen. Plus when working it's common to have gloves on, and hands dirty, so fiddling with a touch screen or even touch buttons gets very awkward.
I've been using trucks for over 40 years for tasks that require work gloves, and I can't recall one time I didn't take the gloves off before driving the truck. This is true even when driving old beaters because you don't want to transfer the crap on the work gloves to the steering wheel, the radio/stereo, and other controls. Plus, if you have been doing real work, the driving is like a work break, you don't keep wearing your gloves, it's like leaving a condom on after sex. The gloves go on the floor of the truck, on the center console or in the back, depending upon what you are doing and how dirty/wet they are.

But keep making up reasons why we should keep buying trucks from legacy makers, they all sound so weak I can't believe people are serious. Eeeeewwww! I can't drive properly without stalks because I will be wearing work gloves! Ha-ha!
 
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Real question (not sarcasm).

Did Ford announce on Lightning launch day that there would be a version (work truck?) that would seat 6?
 

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Real question (not sarcasm).

Did Ford announce on Lightning launch day that there would be a version (work truck?) that would seat 6?
No. And there wont be one, in the Lightning.

There's room for it, but no real *substantive* market for it, retail, or fleet. So the shifter is in the console, not the column/dash.

But retail or fleet, people know what to expect with an F150: an interior the size of a limousine, and that can comfortably fit a 3rd, large, person in the back seat.

A legitimate 3rd back seat is the gaiting item for most of fleet, and retail.

If the CT had a legit 6th seat up front, it would have been gravy. But having a 6th seat is not the gating item for fleet or retail.

I've never quite understood the folks champing at the bit for it in this forum; I think it's a vocal minority. Not enough market for a manufacture to bend over backwards for, push-come-to-shove.
 

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Looks like they are trying to help ('get around') that with the large triangled glass.

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Sure the triangle window helps, but real world experience is that the pillars are big enough to block your vision and cause you to miss things in your sight line you should absolutely be able to see. Countless times I've missed noticing people behind the pillar even though I could see part of their bodies sticking out either end of the pillar. Thankfully, I've never hit anyone. Only once diff I have a real close call, and once that happens, you make extra effort to see behind the pillar by leaning back and forth to make sure you aren't missing something. With a truck like this whose pillars are seriously sight restricting, you really have to actively pay attention when turning. What I'm talking about is the same thing as when drivers don't notice a motorcyclist even when they are looking right in their direction. Sometimes if you aren't looking for that thing right in front of your eyes, of there are enough other visual or mental distractions, you don't notice it. This happens with chunky pillars because you see the pillar, but don't notice the small section of a person that is visible in the distance beyond it when you aren't actively focusing on if there is something being blocked from view.

Anyone who says "oh it will be fine, there is that triangle window, you have so much visibility!" Probably hasn't driven a truck with chunky pillars blocking vision before.

But, thankfully there is the additional safety features of camera everywhere that automatically turn on the center console, and I'm sure Tesla's have active warning signals for collision and when things are obstructing your turn.

I believe the combination of the triangle window and all these safety features will be more than enough to prevent everything but the most oblivious drivers. Still though, you need to be aware and not minimize the restrictions on vision.

I don't have those fancy new fangled safety features in my 2007 Ridgeline, so I'm looking forward to all the bells and whistles!
 
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If the interior room of the CT is materially smaller than the F150 (and I’ve long worried that it is), then I do believe the cause is the result of the unique exterior dimensions of the CT resulting in a smaller interior ergonomic space
For similar reasons the length of the dash is dictated by the exterior shape. It's been a small shock to me to realise there are many reservation holders who apparently expected a much shorter dash, and are angry about the driver/screen distance.

Would they be willing to drive with their heads wedged against the windscreen?

How is failing to understand something this fundamental even...possible?
 


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For similar reasons the length of the dash is dictated by the exterior shape. It's been a small shock to me to realise there are many reservation holders who apparently expected a much shorter dash, and are angry about the driver/screen distance.

Would they be willing to drive with their heads wedged against the windscreen?

How is failing to understand something this fundamental even...possible?
The size of that dash has been long known and visible from the outside. Including, yes, views from the outside looking 'into' the truck - eg, standing outside with the door open.

But this leaked photo is the first time people are seeing it from the driver's prerogative. And, from somone who took the photo with the wide-angle ratcheted up to capture the whole dash landscape, but as a result emphasizing the field of view distortions - making the dash look like it stretches towards infinity.

So I can, to that limited extent, see how folks are maybe for the first time really absorbing the view from the cockpit.

I personally don't mind the big dash, aesthetically - and dont empathize with it being a deal breaker, or a surprise.

That said, this thread also evidences that there are people who for some bizarre reason thought that the design entailed the driver sitting over the front wheels looking down the nose of the truck, like a VW van. So no doubt, there is a subgroup of folks for whom the realities of the design are finaly clicking for the first time.

Which is ... surprising, I agree.
 

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I was amazed at the dash on the first minivan I saw. I remember two kids laying down side by side to demonstrate how wide it was. Chrysler sold a million of 'em.
 

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Heck, I like the super large dash of the CT. Do you know how many bobble heads I can fit up there?

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