Tesla lowers range estimate on Model S, X and Y (due to new EPA calculations)

[Nabilriaz69]

Here is the article

Tesla has lowers range estimate as much as 6% for model y, s and x
Cybertruck may be next

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[Capt_Roy]

This whole EPA range estimate marketing ploy needs to go away. Give us estimated "X miles highway, X miles city" estimates instead. Example:
"Model Y Dual Motor LR: 220 miles highway†, 310 miles city*" (†70 MPH, *40 MPH)"

I made up the exact numbers but you get the idea.

 

[Bartman]

I vote to put Kyle in charge of all EV range estimates. Think he could make a full-time job out of it.

 

[scottf200]

This whole EPA range estimate marketing ploy needs to go away. Give us estimated "X miles highway, X miles city" estimates instead. Example:
"Model Y Dual Motor LR: 220 miles highway†, 310 miles city*" (†70 MPH, *40 MPH)"

I made up the exact numbers but you get the idea.

Saw this yesterday and it appears they do do both. I think this was related to when the EPA does the test at a lower speed dyno (hence the 70% factor)

 

[newwave1331]

I vote to put Kyle in charge of all EV range estimates. Think he could make a full-time job out of it.

https://outofspecstudios.com/70-mph-range

They already have a list out there. The group is honest, fair and very informative. They have my vote.

 

[Capt_Roy]

Do you have a similar table for the Model X? Or can post a link? Thanks.

 

[Bartman]

https://outofspecstudios.com/70-mph-range

They already have a list out there. The group is honest, fair and very informative. They have my vote.

Wow. I had no idea. They are really on the ball with their Procedures and Quality Assurance. Thanks.

 

[Bartman]

Just looked and the new stated range is definitely a lot closer to what our current MYP gets. Still a little high.... at least for us, the way we drive.

 

[VR Driving]

I vote to put Kyle in charge of all EV range estimates. Think he could make a full-time job out of it.

He is already doing this as a full time job lol

 

[scottf200]

"Several popular models are now showing lower range estimates in the US. The move comes after the
DOJ opened a probe into inflated claims, but Tesla doesn’t give a reason."

https://www.theverge.com/2024/1/5/2...-estimations-model-x-s-y-mileage-exaggeration

 

[BayouCityBob]

Posted elsewhere but worth re-posting. Good explanation of EPA calculation methodology. Also understanding of why Tesla's use of 5 cycle rather than the standard 70% can give more optimistic numbers.

https://arstechnica.com/cars/2024/0...ulates-how-far-an-ev-can-go-on-a-full-charge/

PS EPA does not do these tests, the OEMs do (through a third party lab) and they submit the results. EPA will conduct spot audits.

PPS Model S 405 mile range has not changed. Interesting....

 

[REM]

Range estimation is based on so many wildly fluctuating variables that I doubt we will ever see a truly robust rating system that the average IQ is willing to devote brain cells to.

Because this is what you would need to do for an accurate representation:
Specifics, Bob

 

[Ward L]

I wonder if these new calcs will change the CT EPA Range estimates. Anyone know anything?

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