Videos: best look yet @ interior, folded-up backseat, tonneau cover, display screen UI, range meter

[KScheidt]

Only just saw this but I think the numbers are out a bit.

From memory the KWh shown is the amount already charged though.

Then if you look at the charge rate at 77kW, the 55 minute time remaining makes no sense, the battery would be huge if it would still take that long, at that SoC and that charge rate. Either it's wrong or it tapers the charge very fast to get it out to that remaining charge time.

But @KScheidt was on the right track:



That's 6% of battery for 16miles, or a total of 267miles per pack, giving around 3miles per 1% of SoC.

On a 115kWh useable SoC (125kWh) pack that is around 443Wh/mile, which is within the ballpark of expectations, although a bit higher, probably due to the driver "testing" the CT performance.

@cvalue13, am I seeing the Goodyears (off-road) and white trim (Tri-Motor) in this video. I’m pretty confident on the tires but uncertain on the trim color. If so, we already suspect the Tri to have reduced range off the bat and tack on the all-terrain tire penalty, 267mi might not be far off . . .

Regardless of trim, if these are in fact the “Off-Road” tire and we assume a 20% (conservative) penalty then street tires would estimate to be around 330mi.

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[Regenshire]

Yeah, I don't post much. It was a joke, just as any other assumption on here. We all know what assumptions do.

oh! My apologies! I remember a number of users jumping to that conclusion when that master plan dropped, so I just assumed you were being serious.

 

[h_arout]

Idk what it is about this post, but now I’m REALLY looking forward to getting it, the UI looks so fitting to the car

 

[HaulingAss]

Any confirmation/insight on my reverse math? 71% current charge - 65% destination charge = 6% of usage to go the trip distance of 16mi. Now I l know it can introduce a bit of variance when extrapolating from small numbers but I’m getting 267mi of total range . . .

The charge left at destination is known to be very accurate on existing Tesla models. However, that's because it takes into account a lot of details the computer can determine with Internet access. That means without knowing the altitude of the destination and traffic conditions, and local wind conditions, and a few other variables, you cannot calculate the total range from that information.

Because Denver (Littleton), CO is located at the eastern terminus of the Rocky Mountain Range, it's impossible to extract anything meaningful about the range without knowing the destination (except it's unlikely the destination is to the east, at a lower elevation).

 

[Gurule92]

If I am reading that right it shows 71% on the dash with a trip remaining of 16mi and an ending charge of 65%. So . . . 267mi of range?

PS: If you look up the video on TikTok the quality is significantly better.

That's what chatgpt says. But I'm gonna assume that's like straight uphill and includes cold weather battery tax lol

 

[HaulingAss]

If we look at it from the erspective of the possible charge rate at that SoC on a 115/125kWh, we need to factor in the extra battery capacity at the same C rate to get the right numbers as well. (I've used the 21700 C Rate as reference)

So you should be getting a charge rate of 98kW at 70%, 70kW at 80% and 42kW at 90%.

But 70% to 95% should only take 28 minutes to add 44kWh not 55 minutes like it says on the screen.

You would need to know the battery temperature to make much sense of that. It's likely that the battery was not preconditioned before plugging in.

 

[cvalue13]

@cvalue13, am I seeing the Goodyears (off-road) and white trim (Tri-Motor) in this video. I’m pretty confident on the tires but uncertain on the trim color. If so, we already suspect the Tri to have reduced range off the bat and tack on the all-terrain tire penalty, 267mi might not be far off . . .

Regardless of trim, if these are in fact the “Off-Road” tire and we assume a 20% (conservative) penalty then street tires would estimate to be around 330mi.

Definitely the Goodyears, but a dual motor - the tri / white interior is WHITE-white

in any event, yours is a good rough guestimate, though lots of variables (like the tires) could move these guesstimate around materially - PSI in the tires, this guy driving it like it’s stolen, or the UI not being fully dialed in

also, since we don’t know what build this truck is (eg one of the firsts 5 months ago, or one from last week), it’s possible Tesla has made some incremental gains to the total kWh since then


That said, the inferences you make are useful to the extent of what the UI data is NOT showing us: any reasonable way it’s >400mi pack

that’s what this leak really has against it (in that photos/video of the interior/UI are a no-no … much less a TikTok reel with 2019 data color commentary)

 

[TheLastStarfighter]

I don't know why people are trying to do maths. The Ticky Tocky explicitly says right on it up to 500 miles of range.

 

[Unemployed]

What’s up with the fingernail scratches on the rubber where you open the door? Is that blood? Reminds me of the well scene in Silence of The Lambs.

 

[ninja6r]

@cvalue13, am I seeing the Goodyears (off-road) and white trim (Tri-Motor) in this video. I’m pretty confident on the tires but uncertain on the trim color. If so, we already suspect the Tri to have reduced range off the bat and tack on the all-terrain tire penalty, 267mi might not be far off . . .

What a huge bummer if that turns out to be true and it's a Sub-300 range. Even something less that 350 is terrible, IMO. It's going to be very interesting to see what Tesla says about range at the launch. Over half your orders are because of the long range. If they're battery constrained, this is probably the right move to get a premium $$$ for those who only pre-ordered for the acceleration and not the range.

 

[JBee]

You would need to know the battery temperature to make much sense of that. It's likely that the battery was not preconditioned before plugging in.

Preconditioning is meaningless if it's already received 50kW from the charger. It would of "conditioned" in that time.

 

[TheLastStarfighter]

What’s up with the fingernail scratches on the rubber where you open the door? Is that blood? Reminds me of the well scene in Silence of The Lambs.

A little lotion will smooth that right up!

 

[JBee]

What a huge bummer if that turns out to be true and it's a Sub-300 range. Even something less that 350 is terrible, IMO. It's going to be very interesting to see what Tesla says about range at the launch. Over half your orders are because of the long range. If they're battery constrained, this is probably the right move to get a premium $$$ for those who only pre-ordered for the acceleration and not the range.

Overall I would take the display values with a bag of salt.

First of all there are some undefined variables, but most obvious is that the values on screen do not line up with expectations at all. That 55minute left value is way off at 71% and is unacceptably high to complete the charge to 100%. That is more than the total charge time of any other Tesla.

That being said, everyone needs to realise that all Teslas under perform their EPA rating by a healthy margin, but that is already factored into the navigation to make sure people make it to a SC.

That means in turn, that if you get a 350mile EPA range CT, expect about 315miles in real driving, and if you have 300miles EPA expect around 270miles. Which by all counts would be right on the money at your calculated 267miles.

Have a play with ABRP and change the mi/kWh value, and you will see the sensitivities of EV range first hand, especially if you add highway speed miles.

I'd also like to point out that the added mass and the added drag of the CT will add to it's range variability, and will make driving styles even more relevant to achieve range.

 

[CyberGus]

Because Denver (Littleton), CO is located at the eastern terminus of the Rocky Mountain Range, it's impossible to extract anything meaningful about the range without knowing the destination (except it's unlikely the destination is to the east, at a lower elevation).

This video was taken in Austin if the nav screen is to be believed.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/on9MMX8waDV4HbRj9?g_st=ic

 

[Jhodgesatmb]

I don’t see an open/close for the frunk on the screen.

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