Will FSD price at preorder be honored?

[pricedm]

My wife has a 2018 M3LR and I can remember FSD being offered at $3K at one point but was so far away from being anywhere close to reality that I couldn’t justify paying even that amount. I had no idea if or when it’d actually be available.

Yes, FSD was $2 - $3k. But it required "Enhanced Autopilot" which was a $5k option. So...FSD was $7k - $8k at that time. I know b/c I purchased a Model 3 10/2018 with the $5k EAP feature, and later upgraded to FSD (I didn't want to get stuck on v2.5 computer) for $2k.

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[scottf200]

Read your contract. My preorder FSD was $7000. My contract says it will be honored.
This forum has covered this topic, a lot.

When you say "contract" are you referring to "Cybertruck Motor Vehicle Pre-Order Agreement"?

Curious. AFAIK, the actual price is not on any official paperwork that I or anyone else that I know of has shown. And no one has gotten / shown a "Vehicle Configuration" (see below)

I have a

1. 'Thank you for your order' email
2. Cybertruck Motor Vehicle Pre-Order Agreement

I see the order webpage on the wayback site that has an amount but this is not official paperwork/contract AFAIK.

Cybertruck Motor Vehicle Pre-Order Agreement
Terms & Conditions
Documentation. Your Cybertruck Motor Vehicle Pre-Order Agreement (the “Agreement”) is made up of the following documents:
1. Vehicle Configuration: The Vehicle Configuration will be confirmed with you at a later date. It will describe the vehicle that you configure, including pricing (excluding taxes and official or government fees).
2. Final Price Sheet: The Final Price Sheet will be provided to you as your delivery date nears. It will include final pricing based on your Vehicle Configuration and will include taxes and official or governmental fees.
3. Terms & Conditions: These Terms & Conditions are effective as of the date you place your pre-order and make your Pre-Order Payment (the “Pre-Order Date”).

 

[Cyber Mystic]

Read your contract. My preorder FSD was $7000. My contract says it will be honored.
This forum has covered this topic, a lot.

Where do you see in the pre-order contract that The 7K FSD price would be honored? I don't see it.

 

[CyberMoose]

Where do you see in the pre-order contract that The 7K FSD price would be honored? I don't see it.

It definitely isn't mentioned anywhere.

At best it was clearly stated on the original page to place your reservation.

Is it a guarantee? not really, but it is a lot more clear and more of a promise than the truck price which some people thought was going to be honored even though it clearly was never going to happen.

Personally I do think they will honor the FSD price. It's a lot of potential revenue and it will keep those people happy.

It doesn't really cost them anything and it's not like every reservation is saving $5000. I personally believe that 85-90% of reservations will or is already canceled. Then I think even if the older FSD price is honored, you'll still have a small percentage of people add it.

So it looks like a win-win for Tesla to honor it. Unless they believe that they will get more revenue from the less FSD sales on those reservations multiplied by $12000 than the more FSD sale on those reservations at $7000. And they would also have to view that dollar figure, whatever they expect it is, to be greater than customers being upset (which isn't the end of the world)

 

[cvalue13]

Personally I do think they will honor the FSD price. It's a lot of potential revenue and it will keep those people happy.

I mean, they’re not honoring it in the Foundation series.

to do that, all they had to do is give the FSD price-locked RNs a discount off of the Foundarion package premium

Since they haven’t done that, one of two things seems most likely:

(1) when retail pricing starts, it’s also not “locked in”, or

(2) when retail pricing starts, it is locked in, and has the net effect that people who bought a Foundation and had FSD locked in ‘paid’ more for Foundation than people who didn’t have it locked in (insofar as buying a Foundation wasn’t just $20K more expensive than a non-foundation alternative, it was more like $26K more)


not saying any of this is determinative.

only that it’s not a great signal that Foundation series orders damn sure didn’t get the locked in discount

 

[Crissa]

Where do you see in the pre-order contract that The 7K FSD price would be honored? I don't see it.

It would be a criminal violation in California, where the offer was made, to refuse to honor it.

No contract needed.

-Crissa

 

[beewang]

It would be a criminal violation in California, where the offer was made, to refuse to honor it.

No contract needed.

-Crissa

Some counterpoints:

1) I am not a Lawyer... are you??!! Anyways.. I will take your statement at face value for now. OK
2) Who here wants to take on the numerous law firms that Tesla is using at a billing rate of $1K+/ hrs, per "associate" (and it's an FCUKING ARMY of associates, rest assured).

I know what you are going to say... "Class Action!!" Okay that works!

Conclusion: Settlement, So here is the $200 coupon you need to use in the next 24 months on your next purchase of FSD on your new Tesla.

If this doesn't sound familiar, then you are under 48 yrs old .. Just saying..

Cheers,

beewang

 

[rizvend]

You must be sad, you posted a very similar message in 4 other threads in the last hour.

Savage. ??

 

[Bkb13]

Some of y’all have trouble reading. Here it is again…

“ Selecting Full-Self Driving today will secure your price as it increases in the future.”

As for honoring the FSD price in the foundation orders. It is being honored in the cyberbeast, not in the AWD.

 

[Crissa]

Some counterpoints:

1) I am not a Lawyer... are you??!! Anyways.. I will take your statement at face value for now. OK
2) Who here wants to take on the numerous law firms that Tesla is using at a billing rate of $1K+/ hrs, per "associate" (and it's an FCUKING ARMY of associates, rest assured).

I know what you are going to say... "Class Action!!" Okay that works!

Conclusion: Settlement, So here is the $200 coupon you need to use in the next 24 months on your next purchase of FSD on your new Tesla.

If this doesn't sound familiar, then you are under 48 yrs old .. Just saying..

Cheers,

beewang

This is why I pointed out the law in California, where the offer was made, has criminal penalties as opposed to civil.

Why are you posting in support of criminality, anyhow?

Like, this seems like a 'who peed in your wheaties' sort of situation.

-Crissa

 

[Codyco]

I honestly don't see how anyone can make the case that they aren't honoring the price at $7k. They technically aren't charging anything for it. We're paying for the foundation edition with FSD thrown in at no additional charge.

Now, if they start the normal edition orders and charge the full $12k for someone that reserved early on then you definitely have something.

 

[Bkb13]

I honestly don't see how anyone can make the case that they aren't honoring the price at $7k. They technically aren't charging anything for it. We're paying for the foundation edition with FSD thrown in at no additional charge.

Now, if they start the normal edition orders and charge the full $12k for someone that reserved early on then you definitely have something.

You are correct! It is a package and we are INFERRING the value of the parts.

As you can see I’m my spreadsheets, the inferred value of the cyberbeast parts are within $190 of the $20K value

Doing the same comparison for the AWD shows a $4790 difference. If you added that $4790 to the $7k value of the FSD, then you would get a total of $11,790. Close to the $12k we see for the FSD today…

 

[Crissa]

...And that's without valuing the 'early arrival' of the order and Foundation badging/vin.

-Crissa

 

[lowtek]

I drove a Lightning, have had Fords my entire life, love them! The Raptor was my favorite. But after driving the S for a while I just can't do it, the Lightning just feels like it's 10 years old. Smells good, comfortable, but just ... so ... dated.

 

[beewang]

This is why I pointed out the law in California, where the offer was made, has criminal penalties as opposed to civil.

Why are you posting in support of criminality, anyhow?

Like, this seems like a 'who peed in your wheaties' sort of situation.

-Crissa

I apologize, I as I didn't see anything you pointed out (link or otherwise civil code) to cite as the source of "criminal penalties". If you can provide them, it would be helpful.

Which is also the reason I ask if you are member of BAR association.

As far as I can tell, if the FSD price isn't honored, it would be a breach of contract, and that would be a Civil case and not a Criminal Case. As such Criminal penalties don't apply.

So to be clear, I am merely asking the question as this is the internet and most people tend to read and believe what was posted.

Cheers!

beewang

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