So the Cybertruck fits in a garage (at under 19ft long)... But was the size reduction worth it for you?

[555]

This sacrifice circled in the image below. And dont try to say camera angle. because both are fairly equal. That stubbiness almost certainly adds to the drag on the vehicle. The geometry of the CT makes it very sensitive to proportionality. The old front end looked better. And i guess my point is that if the purpose of stubbing the front end was to fit in a garage, that was a dumb decision IMO. I guess the Rivian will fit in a garage so maybe they were worried about losing sales because of it. The production bottom image looks like its missing the front end from the side.

…if you can’t see the light, its not the full side view

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[greggertruck]

I didn't doubt your "just over 227"" length figure was roughly true!

Not the least of reasons being that your figure was in line with my estimates (228"-232") - which is all I needed to know that it wasnt *longer* than an F150 nor *shorter* than a 4 door Tacoma long bed.

That doesn't stop me from wondering about the width!

Here's a thought experiment for us, though:

A 4 door Tacoma with 6'1" bed: 225.5 in​

A 4 door Colorado/Canyon with 6'2" bed: 224.9​

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That means the "less than 19'" CT is ~2" longer than a comparable Tacoma/Colorado/Canyon.​

However: Imagine a CT that has instead only a 5.5' bed, like an F150 - so taking 6-7" off the CT's ~227.5" currently. That would mean the 5.5' bed CT would be only 220" vs an 5.5' bed F150's at 231.7"​

Where'd that other 12" go?

Because I can't believe anyone who says it all came off the nose - people fail to realize just how 'stubby' an F150's "nose" is past the front fender (it's the CT's windshield line that creates that stubby looking effect). The CT nose may be a *bit* shorter, but not by no 12"!

I love that pic of you Lightning, great to compare with. It is however (in my opinion) taken more forward than Cybertruck image was.

re the "Where did it go?" Are you saying where did they take 12" from Cybertruck or put 12" on Cybertruck?

I just want to fully understand before I respond.

 

[CHC]

What are you smoking?

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[greggertruck]

…if you can’t see the light, its not the full side view

I..

1. did not expect the 2 photos to explode like they did
2. did not mean to mislead with the comparison shots

 

[Setok]

Is it worth it to purchase an electric truck made by a U.S. based corporation focused solely upon producing only electric vehicles and promoting sustainable infrastructure? Yes, without qualification. Am I disappointed? Absolutely. I've made no secret about my preference for an eight foot bed length. But, the further reduction in the length of the bed and the focus on putting the truck in a garage shows me the person(s) adapting this truck don't actually use trucks. If you're wealthy, and want to put the truck in a garage, then build the garage deeper and taller. If you're a "regular Joe", and not part of a HOA, parking outside is normal. Especially a truck with an impervious stainless steel and bulletproof glass outer shell. My preference continues to be function over form. I am buying this truck to use it, not store it and prance around in it to look a certain way. Further proof that these changes, IMHO, are counterproductive, is the addition of a rack or a camper. Once these are added, the parameters of a standard garage will be exceeded. Elon had a great idea at the beginning, even with the 78" bed length. I am still intent on purchasing the Cybertruck as an electric alternative to the I.C.E. options. But, if someone actually makes a competent electric truck with an eight foot bed, I would consider it even though it isn't a Tesla.

Since you mentioned it, you are going to be disappointed when you find the glass is not bulletproof. It was never stated as being that. That was just something often repeated, but never actually based on what was said.

 

[Setok]

Yes, I am pleased to hear that the Cybertruck will be shorter than 19' long. The only other measurement that I am still waiting on is the width.

I'm also loving the stubbier front end. I think Franz and his design team did an outstanding job.

I'm still amazed at how much the production version looks like the concept.

It’s funny how the same people who talk about ‘form over function’ complain about the stubbier nose. A shorter nose means reduced front overhang which is actually better when off-roading!

Though this photo angle does deceive a bit. If you look at others with a more frontal angle you will see the nose is not as stubby as it appears here.

 

[FutureBoy]

I may be a bit off from everyone else on this thread but I would think it has to fit into a garage because that is where most in-home chargers are located. I'm in Florida where snow is not an issue but rain is. I prefer driving into my garage on rainy days. At nights when I'm charging my model 3 it is parked in the garage where the charger is. I refuse to get an outside charger because the house next door is a rental property and every few years there are new neighbors there and typically they don't know how to respect boundaries. In the event the neighbors have a tesla I can only expect they would use my charger as they constantly steal and use my garden hose. Like I said, they are renters and might have came from apartments and haven't figured out they can simply buy themselves their own hose but why spend your own money on an affordable hose when you can steal a usage of someone else’s I guess? I can only imagine what will happen to my outside charger if these people can't simply buy a cheap hose and a charger costs as much as $400+ the cost of installation. It is important to make the CT fit into a garage especially for folks in California and other states/cities that has different peak usage based on time of day. From what I've read, California Tesla owners have to set their cars to charge at nights when it's most affordable and most of them charge in garages. If the CT cannot fit into a standard size garage it will require owners to install an additional charger on the outside of their homes which leaves their electricity vulnerable to be stolen. Imagine having a gasoline pump in your front yard and foolishly believing people won't steal your gasoline whether it's in the middle of the night or when you'r out of town or even just at work away from home. That's just my opinion and what I take from the need to make sure CT fits into a 20' garage.

This is very much a short term issue. There are 2 possible long-term situations.

1: If you think that people will continue to own their own vehicles, how many do most people own? Not sure what the actual stat is but most home-owning families seem to have at least two. We have three and quite a few of those around us do too. So there is a pretty good chance that as EVs take over, there are going to need to be chargers outside the garage.

On the other hand, 2: if you think FSD is going to take over the world, then the vast majority of people will no longer even own vehicles and thus won’t need charging or garage parking.

In either scenario, the need to have a truck in the garage charging is really a small time issue that will not last. I get that some of us are spoilt and don’t want to walk outside in the weather. But we are going to end up doing just that. And if you have the money to purchase a CT but don’t have the money to provide security for a safe charging spot, we need to talk so you can get your finances straight. Independent of the CT purchase, the security of you and your family should be very much a higher priority in my book.

 

[cvalue13]

I love that pic of you Lightning, great to compare with. It is however (in my opinion) taken more forward than Cybertruck image was.

Yeah, it’s not a perfect 1-for-1, but it’s pretty good and good enough to draw into question anyone saying the “nose” on the CT is wildly more stumpy than other trucks.

the CT nose *appears* materially more stumpy due to the design, but on a dimensions basis it’s just … not

re the "Where did it go?" Are you saying where did they take 12" from Cybertruck or put 12" on Cybertruck?

I just want to fully understand before I respond.

it’s a pretty rough hypothetical, but:

if we shorten a CT with a 6’1” bed to instead a 5.5’ bed like an F150 SCREW, that equates to a CT that is roughly 12” shorter than the F150

So, why’s a CT with a 5.5’ bed a good 12” shorter than a an F150 with a 5.5’ bed?

Again, only a thought experiment

 

[TheLastStarfighter]

I live in the mountains of Eastern Oregon. The temperatures here regularly reach double digit negatives in Fahrenheit without considering wind chill. Yes, I own a model Y and it is always parked outside. Yes, I have a garage that is actually 21' deep, but I use it as my shop. I do have the ability to park off street, but if a drunk did vandalize my vehicle, there are cameras to prove it to insurance and to the police. As for range, I have had two incidents since I have owned Tesla vehicles where range became an issue. I learned from that to not be the guy who thinks a quarter tank is "enough". I am not willing to push any vehicle I drive into a low reserve situation because I KNOW that doing so harms the machine... harms my tool and my asset.

Spoken like someone who hasn't been the victim of random vandals. As I said, I live downtown. It's not a bad or unsafe community, but every town of any size has drunks and druggies now. They do stupid things. And I have had multiple cases of vandalism and theft, almost 1 per year of living here. Of course I have cameras, there are police and I have insurance. But all of those things are a tremendous, unsettling hassle. The easiest solution is simply make it impossible for the incident to occur. Do you like waking up to a smashed windshield and then spending the day dealing with police and insurance instead of what you planned?

Same with cold. Sure you can accept less range keeping it outside, but why do you want to, if you don't have to?

 

[Challeco]

Since you mentioned it, you are going to be disappointed when you find the glass is not bulletproof. It was never stated as being that. That was just something often repeated, but never actually based on what was said.

Oh... I'm sorry. Impact resistant. I'm glad you pointed out the inaccurate minutiae of my statement. You are my hero for pointing it out!

 

[AlDente]

I'm happy it will fit in my garage. I am also setup for outside parking and charging but the garage is the preferred parking spot for what will be my daily driver.

 

[Last boomer]

Elon was proud to announce today on the earnings call that it will fit in a standard 20' garage as it is 19ft or less. My first thought was please don't tell me they made great efforts to shrink the truck so it fits in a garage. The front end does not look as good as it did when it was revealed in 2019 and that is indisputable. Some have argued that it had to do with crash safety but that has not been confirmed as far as I know. Elon definitely did say a couple years back that they were entertaining shrinking the truck 6" or so to fit in a garage. If they made it 19' to fit in a 20' garage that obviously isnt much clearance and as i stated earlier. i havent ever met a truck owner that really wanted to park in a garage. I get the cold weather folks will appreciate it and possibly some others but I imagine its a small percentage and I would personally much rather have the original front end in sacrifice of it not fitting in the garage. I think i mostly posted this to vent. Here is a link to another post that shows the differences better. I don't pretent to understand crash requirements but it really looks to me like they shaved that 6" off the front end to make it fit in a garage and it doesn's look nearly as good. link

here is an image from that same thread:

Love the approach angle

 

[Tinker71]

Four doors, seats 5, and has a 6-foot bed. What "sacrifices" should I be evaluating?

Making it longer also adds weight, reduces the turning radius, reduces the entry/exit angle, and makes it harder to park generally.

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[dongzhuangyong]

Most of the family cars in China are parked in the basement of high-rise residential buildings. Generally, the size of these parking spaces is only 2.5m*5.5m. If you want to open up sales in China, it is very wise to properly control the size of the car.

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