Confirmed: 11,000 lbs tow rating / 2,500 lbs payload capacity (official specs)! + Shatter-resistant glass

[RVAC]

That's also a declarative. Without factual basis.

-Crissa

The basis is readily apparent, sail pillars and 5th wheel towing don't mesh well together and a unibody does not allow for it to be sold in a chassis cab configuration. That's a significant portion of the 3/4+ ton market.

You can't tell whether the panels are dead weight simply by comparing the curb weight of a Lightning to a Cybertruck because that assumes all else is equal (and we know it's not). First, we would need to know the curb weight of a Lighting outfitted with max tow package, second, we would need a dependable curb weight for a Cybertruck of a comparable configuration, which we still don't have.

In fact, the two are not comparable right off the bat, because the Cybertruck has higher tow and haul ratings. A more capable truck should naturally be heavier, all else being equal.

Also, the Ford doesn't come with air suspension and a metal air tank and compresser. You can't even get a system that raises and lowers the entire cabin and body by 8 inches. That comes with a weight penalty.

Also, the Ford doesn't come with rear wheel steering. That adds a weight penalty.

Also, the Ford will almost certainly not handle as crisply due to excessive chassis flex, leaving the weight comparison anything but apples to apples.

Finally, the Cybertruck comes equipped with a motorized metal vault cover that you can walk on without excessive flex. The Ford comes with an open bed. That's probably a 200-280 pound difference right there!

Using the curb weight difference to try to prove the stainless body is just dead weight is so far in left field I'm having trouble believing you are being sincere.

Sure, equally, you can't tell they are load bearing either. Which is why I said it's pointless to keep this argument going and we'll have to wait Sandy's teardown to see how it all nets out. It's not a matter of curb weight proving anything, it's only indicative of how, for the most part, they could be being carried as dead weight. You were predicting a sub 6000 lbs curb weight, how do you reconcile it's almost 1000 lbs heavier despite it being 8" shorter? I have trouble believing you are being sincere when you gloss over this.

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[Crissa]

The basis is readily apparent, sail pillars and 5th wheel towing don't mesh well together and a unibody does not allow for it to be sold in a chassis cab configuration. That's a significant portion of the 3/4+ ton market.

So, you absolutely know the height and configuration of the sail pillars would block every 5th wheel configuration, sight unseen, dimensions unknown, and the unibody design absolutely means that since traditionally trucks are sold without the bed to mate to other cargo configurations, there will never be cargo configurations that take advantage of the shape and stiffness of the truss design?

That seems like hubris to me, that's all.

-Crissa

 

[Dirt Worker]

Great payload, totally predicted that they wouldn't get the 3500lb payload from the reveal. So many in this forum insisted that the payload would be 3500 plus.

Also SMC = sheet moulding compound https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheet_moulding_compound

The Official Tesla Cybertruck website still boasting a 3500 payload and 14000 plus towing. Will that be changed after the release party? Other changes have taken place but those numbers are still there.

 

[cvalue13]

The Official Tesla Cybertruck website still boasting a 3500 payload and 14000 plus towing. Will that be changed after the release party? Other changes have taken place but those numbers are still there.

what other changes have taken place in the last weeks?

 

[newwave1331]

what other changes have taken place in the last weeks?

Well this for one.

 

[cvalue13]

Well this for one.

yes, but not on the website. Other member was suggesting that both this showroom poster and the existing website data (of 3,500lb/14,000k lb) we’re simultaneously true, given that ‘other’ info in the website has changed but not this payload/towing info

 

[themuleman]

From the sign at the San Diego Tesla store (where a Cybertruck is on display currently)!

Official specs:

11,000 lbs tow rating
2,500 lbs payload

That is going to KILL their 5th-wheel owning customers (like myself) from buying. We need 3000+. Tesla's website still advertises 3500 lbs. Wonder if that sign is for that model specifically? I hope so. Sad face.

 

[newwave1331]

yes, but not on the website. Other member was suggesting that both this showroom poster and the existing website data (of 3,500lb/14,000k lb) we’re simultaneously true, given that ‘other’ info in the website has changed but not this payload/towing info

Oh gotcha.

Well I'm sure those numbers will come true at some point. It doesn't say model year.

 

[newwave1331]

That is going to KILL their 5th-wheel owning customers (like myself) from buying. We need 3000+. Tesla's website still advertises 3500 lbs. Wonder if that sign is for that model specifically? I hope so. Sad face.

@x86brandon did you make a new profile?

 

[HaulingAss]

That is going to KILL their 5th-wheel owning customers (like myself) from buying. We need 3000+.

As someone who has already been waiting 4 years to get my hands on my own Cybertruck, this is music to my ears. The more people who bag out, the better.

Unfortunately, I think many are over-estimating how many people reserved a Cybertruck because they need to pull a 5th wheel! ??

 

[themuleman]

As someone who has already been waiting 4 years to get my hands on my own Cybertruck, this is music to my ears. The more people who bag out, the better.

Unfortunately, I think many are over-estimating how many people reserved a Cybertruck because they need to pull a 5th wheel! ??

Indeed. I too put in for this thing day one. But over the past four years I've purchased a F350 and a 5th-wheel. I was wanting to trade the 350, but any 35'+ 5th wheels put at least 2200 down on the payload, then you have to add peeps, so only 3500 would work. Here is to hoping.

 

[SentinelOne]

Indeed. I too put in for this thing day one. But over the past four years I've purchased a F350 and a 5th-wheel. I was wanting to trade the 350, but any 35'+ 5th wheels put at least 2200 down on the payload, then you have to add peeps, so only 3500 would work. Here is to hoping.

Yeah, I upgraded my bumper pull toy hauler in the past 4 years...from max trailer weight of 11k to 13k for the new one...so 1300/13k - figured would be ok for the 14k towing rating they showed for the Tri motor...errrrr, not so much...still think I can get by (barely) - trailer 9850 empty...so as long as I dont fill with 800lbs of water or a SxS then should be good to go on 1100 tongue, 11k max - but will be close and cant use full capabilities of the trailer....

 

[PilotPete]

Yeah, I upgraded my bumper pull toy hauler in the past 4 years...from max trailer weight of 11k to 13k for the new one...so 1300/13k - figured would be ok for the 14k towing rating they showed for the Tri motor...errrrr, not so much...still think I can get by (barely) - trailer 9850 empty...so as long as I dont fill with 800lbs of water or a SxS then should be good to go on 1100 tongue, 11k max - but will be close and cant use full capabilities of the trailer....

I have been wondering if the specs on the poster are just the Dual CT. It would match what they said at the launch, and since they initially said there would be weight and towing differences based on CT “versions”, this might still be true. I’m sure a couple people on here know, and we will probably all know in a few days. But think about “what if that is true.” I think it would be odd if the load and towing were exactly the same, regardless of the version. the others in the market aren’t that way. (The others aren’t Tesla either…)

 

[HaulingAss]

Yeah, I upgraded my bumper pull toy hauler in the past 4 years...from max trailer weight of 11k to 13k for the new one...so 1300/13k - figured would be ok for the 14k towing rating they showed for the Tri motor...errrrr, not so much...still think I can get by (barely) - trailer 9850 empty...so as long as I dont fill with 800lbs of water or a SxS then should be good to go on 1100 tongue, 11k max - but will be close and cant use full capabilities of the trailer....

I've been towing a variety of loads for over 40 years and a "bumper pull" hitch always used to refer to a tow ball mounted right to the bumper, just as the name implies. Bumper pull hitches were very light duty hitches with no attachment to the frame other than that which attaches the bumper itself and couldn't pull anything bigger than a trailer weighing 1,000- 2,000 pounds or so and a frame mounted reciever hitch was needed for heavier loads.

The proper term for the type of hitch you are referring to is just a standard "receiver hitch" that is frame mounted, not a "bumper pull". Communication is important so it always bothers me when we get terminology creep. If people are going to call a frame-mounted hitch a "bumper pull" hitch, then what do we call a light-duty hitch that is supported only by the bumper itself? And am I to believe a class 5 Xtra-Duty hitch rated up to 17,000 lbs. is a "bumper pull" hitch?

 

[RVAC]

So, you absolutely know the height and configuration of the sail pillars would block every 5th wheel configuration, sight unseen, dimensions unknown, and the unibody design absolutely means that since traditionally trucks are sold without the bed to mate to other cargo configurations, there will never be cargo configurations that take advantage of the shape and stiffness of the truss design?

That seems like hubris to me, that's all.

-Crissa

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While largely immaterial to the 1/2 ton market, it would be naive to think fleet customers, who make up ~40% of Ford 'Super Duty' sales, would be willing to put up with those limitations, along with most retail buyers who need those capabilities.

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