With recent reports of CT issues, 2nd thoughts anyone?

[HaulingAss]

I’m not concerned.

Same happened with the MY rollout in 2020.

If the forums were to be believed: the glass roofs were flying off, all the rear motors on the MYP’s were failing, the heat pumps were defective, the tie rod bolts were missing the castle nuts, etc, etc.

Now, did SOME MYs have those issues? Yes, absolutely. But my two 2020 MY’s have been absolutely trouble-free since delivery. Best cars I’ve ever owned.

I can’t wait for my FS AWD!!

Absolutely. The real take-away from this thread should be that the problems we have seen are, by far, a minority. The number of people who have taken delivery and driven all over hell and back with nary a problem, and not even bothered going on any Cybertruck forum is a lot of people.

Conversely, the number of people who have taken delivery, had a disabling flaw, and not reported it online is vanishingly small.

The few people that have actually had a problem not only report it, but then it gets re-reported endlessly, by media, by cross-posting, by referring to it as if it were "the norm". Anyone who claims disabling flaws upon delivery are becoming "the norm" is simply trying to stoke fear, uncertainty and doubt. The actual percentages of major failures are very low for a new design and the kinds of problems showing up are exactly what one would expect upon the launch of a new platform.

What is missed through all the focus on individual problems, is how solid the overall platform is starting to prove that it is with a very low incidence of squeaks and rattles or other general issues that don't have easy fixes. We have seen what, five or ten steering failures that seem more like a software glitch or bad connector or sensor or wiring harness issue than something inherent in the engineering and design. The chassis has been put through some pretty harsh torture tests including catching air, being loaded well over the gross axle ratings, towing a heavy trailer on dirt roads with steep grades and tight corners, etc. etc. etc, all without structural failure (beyond a couple of cracked windshields from hard impacts with the ground. When the Hummer EV was released, a guy totalled the chassis by driving it 50 mph through a broad dip in a road adjacent to an aquaduct! Had I been considering a Hummer, that would have put it out of the running right there (it has a chassis too weak to support its own massive weight unless not driven gingerly off-road!).

We knew a new platform would have niggles, and that Tesla's focus on constant improvement would fix them. Nothing has happened that was not exactly the kind of thing that was expected.

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[HaulingAss]

So the longer you wait on any vehicle the lower the probability of issues - unless it's a Range Rover/Land Rover product. Waiting on the CT will likely mean fewer problems/bugs to be worked through so if that's your primary concern this seems like an easy one, just wait until 2026 or 2027.

That seems like a sneaky narrative to get yours sooner!

 

[FutureTruck]

If this vehicle is to be driven for fun and not a primary vehicle, then Tesla is in big trouble. I hope you're the only one with this viewpoint, because if it's commonly shared amongst the public, this thing won't hit the F-150 numbers Tesla is hoping for.

Mine will be replacing my F-150 and it will be an everyday driver. I imagine 98% of them being bought will be everyday drivers too.

In a couple of years it will be a viable daily driver. For now it is a luxury extra vehicle, not reliable enough for someone to use for regular transportation and the battery pack is far to small and the charging to slow for a work truck or distance commuting.

 

[carsly]

That seems like a sneaky narrative to get yours sooner!

Not so worried about that, I have a Dec 2019 reservation and would prefer a non-Foundation Series.

Almost all of these "most reliable" vehicles have been in production a decade or longer, not so many new-to-the-world EV's on the list (none, actually).

https://www.hotcars.com/most-reliable-cars-of-last-decade/

 

[mark555055c]

In a couple of years it will be a viable daily driver. For now it is a luxury extra vehicle, not reliable enough for someone to use for regular transportation and the battery pack is far to small and the charging to slow for a work truck or distance commuting.

April fools. LOL. Good one.

 

[CyberGus]

I have always seen myself as an early adopter as well. Dealing with software issues (radio doesn't work, full self driving doesn't work, etc... all seem normal for Beta), but the inability to drive the vehicle and potentially major safety issues on a freeway seem like more than early adopter issues to me. However maybe these are much more isolated incidences than they seem. What's your opinion about where to draw the line between early adopter issues (which can actully be fun to be part of the solution) and big functional problems? Specifically, I'm referring to this type of issue that several others are supposedly having

A very long time ago I worked for a local PC company (starts with "D" and rhymes with "hell"), and although I was a software guy, anyone with a pulse could work the manufacturing line during the end-of-quarter push. I signed up for the overtime, and since I didn't really have training, they assigned me to the "rework" station where I got to tear-down systems that failed the burn-in tests.

I quickly figured out why so many were failing: hard drives were mounted on a metal plate, but when mounted with the circuit-board side down, there was almost no clearance between the plate and the PCB solder joints. These systems passed initially, but thermal expansion was sometimes enough to close the gap and cause a short. Even systems that fully passed carried the risk of being DOA just from vibration during shipping.

I brought this to line manager, and the workers were quickly retrained. Sadly, I could not convince him to unbox and check the mountain of systems already built that shift. "They'll call us if they're broken."

Not that I believe Tesla would knowingly ship a busted truck, but sometimes a minor change can be the difference between success and total failure. A mis-routed wire harness could be stretched or pinched in a way that would not be immediately obvious.


tl;dr: No, I'm not worried there are fundamental "big functional problems" with Cybertruck.

 

[elyliu]

No issues with my CT in my first two weeks. Also think that the few that have issues just get amplified in media...

 

[Coagulation]

I’m waiting for my VIN as well (placed my FS order/configuration 89 days ago), but from what I’ve read in other threads, it seems like Tesla allows you to keeps your $1k deposit and change your order from FS to regular.

is that confirmed?

 

[U92]

Always from new people here that likely didnt put in an early reservation trying to scare early adopters out of their orders... Crypto lmao ...

 

[Futam84]

is that confirmed?

I don't know for sure, just what I've read.

 

[CyberGus]

it seems like Tesla allows you to keeps your $1k deposit and change your order from FS to regular.

is that confirmed?

Tesla will let you place your order "on hold" for a protracted period (months?) at which point there may not be a Foundation Series anymore.

 

[GEAUXHOOKEM]

As someone set to take delivery of a CB any day now (I was told last week it was on a train out of Texas), I have to be honest when I say I have some concerns about the issues I’m seeing. I currently have two Model X’s and they have been stellar vehicles. While I understand the current issues with the harnesses could represent a minuscule amount of failures vs total produced, I have to ask myself if I’m willing to take a gamble that could have safety implications for me and my family. I live in SoCal and I can tell you the 405 can be unforgiving during the slowest of times, let alone, when seven lanes of traffic are at high capacity and speed. I currently have a CB VIN in the 4000’s and am hoping that the failure issues have been addressed by now. I scour forums each day seeing if any vehicles with VIN’s 4000 and beyond are experiencing this issue. I’m fine with growing pains and teething issues with new vehicles, but I think we can all agree that it’s not a bridge too far to draw the line at system failure while driving on a brand new vehicle. I’m okay to wake up to a dead battery or malfunction of some kind in the high and low voltage system or general issues that can be sorted out with software updates. I feel it’s perfectly okay to commend Tesla for the stellar products they produce while also recognizing that no amount of CT hysteria is worth jeopardizing the safety of those on the road. I’m hoping the harness issue is isolated to a bad batch because I refuse to believe Tesla would knowingly continue manufacturing and delivering vehicles with this type of defect.

 

[HaulingAss]

In a couple of years it will be a viable daily driver. For now it is a luxury extra vehicle, not reliable enough for someone to use for regular transportation and the battery pack is far to small and the charging to slow for a work truck or distance commuting.

You sure push some non-sensical and oddball negative narratives on this forum. No, none of what you wrote is supported by the actual reality on the ground.

 

[HaulingAss]

No issues with my CT in my first two weeks. Also think that the few that have issues just get amplified in media...

Exactly. Most people with no issues do not bother to report in on the forum would be overflowing with people reporting no major issues. It's generally not considered newsworthy to report no news.

But one serious failure gets repeated endlessly. Then the video comes out showing it and it gets reported as a new incident that just happend. Then the media repoorts on that....and the story takes on a life of it's own. People start claiming it's not the exception, it's the norm. And then gullible people start posting that they are worried it will happen to them, reinforcing the narrative that this type of failure is common and to be expected. And on and on.

 

[HaulingAss]

A very long time ago I worked for a local PC company (starts with "D" and rhymes with "hell"),

Oh, oh, it's on the tip of my tongue....Can we get one more clue? Like what are the first three letters of the ticker symbol? ?

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