Why shouldn't I Cancel My CT order and purchase the Chevy EV?

[USMC70]

The hummer was much more enjoyable to drive than the Silverado EV. Much softer experience on the road, both street and dirt. Crab walk was insanely fun and surprisingly useful on my narrow rural dirt roads with tight turns. Hummer has less range, but I would choose less range for a less fatiguing driving experience. My biggest dislike and I knew going into it was the massive size. Parking was always a challenge.

Thank you for sharing.

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[Stuck4ger]

and why should we care?

 

[Pops]

Personally I would not consider the Silverado EV when the GMC Denali EV will be available soon. It is better in almost everyway. I feel the Silverado is just a basic truck that happens to be an EV, if that is all you want then go for it.

 

[carsly]

If you want an electric version of a gas truck with a massive (super heavy) battery and no functional public charging infrastructure and trust GM's software engineering then go for it. For some folks who want a heavy-duty truck for carrying or towing big loads every day the big battery alone might be enough to tip them over towards the Silverado. That's great that they, and you, have that choice.

The Cybertruck, or really any Tesla, is just a different type of transportation.

I'm averaging 333 Wh/mi on my Cybertruck AWD at just over 1,500 miles, I'll take that any day because efficiency matters to me.

I've had more software updates than I can count in the two months I've owned the Cybertruck, all OTA. I was cross-shopping a Hummer EV earlier in the year and total OTA software updates GM has delivered in the last few years - zero. Every. Single. Time. The. Truck. Has. To. Spend. A Day. Or Two. At The. Dealer. To Get. Updates. Why? WHY?! Sometimes the updates don't "take" and need to be re-applied. Again, at the dealership. Reliability and durability on the pouch cells seems to be an issue as well. Earlier this year GM said they needed to physically replace most or all of the Hummer EV battery packs. WTF?

Mass matters. You don't need to agree with him, but in Jason Camissa's review of the Cybertruck he made a very shrewd observation about excess mass and inefficiency. It really does compromise every part of the experience - handling, braking, steering, accident avoidance, parts reliability, durability. Oh, and there is that 3 year, yes 36 month, warranty from GM. On their halo EV (Hummer). Huh? Why is the warranty shorter than every other vehicle they make? What do they know?

If you like the Silverado, buy it, enjoy it, and report back. If you prefer a Rivian, go ahead and get that and report back. All good here, no animus or vitriol necessary.

 

[17hertz]

I had mine for less than a week and traded it in. The software is horrendous on all of these legacy automakers. I've owned the Lightning, Hummer EV, and most recently the Silverado EV. I thought I would be able to look past the clunky early 2000s software but after experiencing several Tesla's, it's impossible to go back.

Just noticing little things like the CONSTANT annoying hum when the car is on and even just siting still in drive. People say this can be fixed with a software update but "can" is different from "will". That sound alone was a dealbreaker to take a bath in it and trade it in. I hope this info can save someone thousands because I didn't read about that anywhere online or see it in the several YouTube videos I watched on the Silverado. It is absolutely nails on a chalkboard can't-tune-it-out sound.

There's also the fact that you can't adjust the amperage up and down while charging the Silverado. For most city dwellers this probably is a moot point but for people that road trip or rural people like myself, it is annoying to have to lug around another mobile charger that has built in ability to lower the amperage.

From all the many EV vehicles I've driven, Rivian is the only competitor currently to Tesla.

Wow thank you so much. This was super helpful.

 

[CyberTW]

You could charge the battery to the same KwH as the CT and get roughly the same range. Again, this isn't a great talking point. The Silverado is the only EV that suits long range driving and towing. That's not for everyone, but it's important for some.

Also, on fast chargers, the Silverado actually charges faster than the CT (currently). It has an insane charging curve and holds high rates of charge longer than any vehicle on the market.

It's not for everyone, but there's obviously a lot of CT reservation holders that wanted 500 miles of range. They are much closer to that with the Silverado.

The charging is true except you aren’t mentioning the crap charging network available. I can travel all around Oregon easy with the CT because chargers are everywhere. If I filled up my Chevy EV Silverado at home or at a fast charger, you are venturing into not saving a lot of money territory because the battery is so big and the rig is inefficient. So if you are towing over 200 miles, then you hope you can find a reliable charger off the beaten path.. vs cybertruck, you tow a little less range, but find SCs much faster and frequent. Being able to two 220 vs 150-ish isn’t worth the crap software and no SBW or FSD, just imo

 

[electricAK]

You could charge the battery to the same KwH as the CT and get roughly the same range. Again, this isn't a great talking point.

Really?

As another poster on here said:

Although the Chevy has more range and bigger battery, it is a lot less efficient. EPA rating of 533 wh/mi versus 340 wh/mi for the CT

So you need to charge 57% more kWh to get the same number of miles as the CT. That's a HUGE charging penalty. Both in terms of time sitting at the charger, and cost of dollars spent at the charger.

Efficiency is *everything* in an EV. Tesla lives by this rule. GM.....doesn't seem to care.

 

[Mrp911]

The local Chevy dealer has had four Silverado EV WT on the lot for two months. Originally priced at $82k. Now discount and tax credit bring them down to $68,800. 200kw battery with over 400mile tested range and 10k tow. Zero to Sixty in 5.5 sec. larger front storage. Spare tire. Center dash display. 4WD Full Independent suspension on Eight lug rims and floating axles.

Downside -No four wheel steering by wire, Stainless, FSD, Cast unibody frame or adjustable air suspension.

I am a day one reserve and sick of waiting nearly five years while the guy down the street was dumb enough to cough up and extra 20k to jump ahead in line.

What am I missing?

Because it is a Chevy and not a Tesla for starters. 5 months in with our Cyberbeast and it’s been outstanding. Soon it will even drive itself. ?

 

[electricAK]

For some folks who want a heavy-duty truck for carrying or towing big loads every day the big battery alone might be enough to tip them over towards the Silverado.

Also not accurate. The Silverado has worst-in-class payload capacity. Over 1000lbs less payload capacity than the CT.

Again, this comes down to the gigantic battery. The truck is too heavy for its own good.

 

[Dirt Worker]

and why should we care?

I give up... Why?

 

[CyberGus]

All good here, no animus or vitriol necessary.

But but but... this is the internet ?‍

 

[SCTesla]

Really?

As another poster on here said:


So you need to charge 57% more kWh to get the same number of miles as the CT. That's a HUGE charging penalty. Both in terms of time sitting at the charger, and cost of dollars spent at the charger.

Efficiency is *everything* in an EV. Tesla lives by this rule. GM.....doesn't seem to care.

Here are real world results: (added from another thread after sorted)

Edit: As established, "Time sitting at charger" is irrelevant, because the Silverado charges faster than the CT, despite the much larger battery. This should change in the future, but right now the Silverado would cost more, but that's really the only charging/distance draw back. The payload, weight, feel, brakes, tires are all valid concerns.

 

[Lasttoy]

U should. Don't buy CT

 

[electricAK]

Here are real world results: (added from another thread after sorted)

Edit: As established, "Time sitting at charger" is irrelevant, because the Silverado charges faster than the CT, despite the much larger battery. This should change in the future, but right now the Silverado would cost more, but that's really the only charging/distance draw back. The payload, weight, feel, brakes, tires are all valid concerns.

That's helpful data. But it appears to show efficiency while cruising at a constant speed. Not sure I would call that "real world". The EPA test seems to be a valid mix of city/highway driving. Are you saying you think the EPA rated efficiency is wrong?

 

[SCTesla]

That's helpful data. But it appears to show efficiency while cruising at a constant speed. Not sure I would call that "real world". The EPA test seems to be a valid mix of city/highway driving. Are you saying you think the EPA rated efficiency is wrong?

Different companies do the EPA test in different manners. While Tesla was recently forced to be a bit closer than others by testing in all modes, they still do a 3 cycle test (Tesla and Audi) and to my knowledge are the only ones to do so. It gives them a bit more aggressive results.

The CT may not fall into this because most real world testing has been closer to EPA than other models, but Tesla (and Audi) have been notorious for being way under in real world testing, especially at speed, than Ford, Chevy, Rivian, and others.

That said, it's completely legal and allowed by the EPA.

Also, in those 50 mph test and the 70, they do have to accelerate to get to speed...that's where range is the most important for most (on trips).

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