Self-Driving Tesla Fails On The Streets Of South Boston

[Albern]

No matter what scenarios the tester encountered, and no matter what he thinks is the trajectory of FSD, he was given the priviledge of being in the beta testing program and his role was to help identify problems TO THE COMPANY, by pushing on the camera icon, and nothing else. His approach, to take a film crew out, knowing how they would report it, is inexcusable. I suppose he has gotten his 15 seconds of notoriety, but I hope he loses the testing priviledge, because his head isn't in the spirit of the program.

Agreed!! The amount of FUD with FSD BETA is ridiculous. Reminded me of the "journalist" who posted similar results in San Diego last year.

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[BillyGee]

So how many accidents per year were you getting into before AP? You sound like a prime candidate for autonomous driving when we get it in another 6-8 years.

Just one, and I wasn't even at fault. Dude had a blowout and didn't compensate correctly and swerved into my truck. Had I been in a cybertruck with AP enabled, it probably would have been able to avoid it because of more efficient braking and better situational awareness.

I'm a careful driver and always have been, but I drive about 150 miles a day for work, so I have a way larger sample rate than most people. I wouldn't be surprised if every business vehicle in the next 10 to 15 years has some level of autonomous driving as a standard feature.

 

[cybguy]

Drivers agree to a NDA when they enter the FSD Beta program. It's not "censorship".

I would argue that this is in accordance to the NDA "share on social media responsible". I don't think a jury is going to be swayed that sharing of cherry picked videos only is "responsible'. Tesla would be wise to not push its luck on the issue.

 

[Jhodgesatmb]

Sure, we should only expect to see FSD operating on empty streets or low traffic simple drives to see how it is progressing. Otherwise we can just count on hearing from Musk every year or two that autonomous driving will be here by the end of the year. Let's censure everything else.
Now please go back to China if you want everything censured. Seriously as an investor in TSLA I don't want to see how FSD only performs by cherry picked drivers that are approved because they also drive in low risk areas. Tesla will open itself up to lawsuits if it targets FSD drivers in real world difficult traffic conditions while allowing stooges to post driver's ed routes. These lawsuits will be from FSD purchasers as well as Class Action ones from TSLA stockholders.

We all want to see FSD rogress to ever more complex scenarios, but part of testing it is getting used to how it behaves in ever-increasingly complex scenarios. When Zac and Jessie (Now You Know hosts) took FSD out for the first time they took it into the worst scenarios they knew of and intervened like crazy, and scared the shit out of themselves, because in part they weren't familiar with the system. If you start with things it can do well and progress to more complex scenarios you find its boundaries and are less freaked out when you find a new one. There are lots of things that FSD doesn't do right in fairly normal driving. We should let Tesla get those sorted out before expecting it to handle places like south Boston, Mumbai, Beijing, etc. in their worst conditions. I am not a believer that it will be Level 4 this year, but it does get better all the time, and as long as I know its limitations, and when to expect to intervene, it does a good job.

 

[cybguy]

We all want to see FSD rogress to ever more complex scenarios, but part of testing it is getting used to how it behaves in ever-increasingly complex scenarios. When Zac and Jessie (Now You Know hosts) took FSD out for the first time they took it into the worst scenarios they knew of and intervened like crazy, and scared the shit out of themselves, because in part they weren't familiar with the system. If you start with things it can do well and progress to more complex scenarios you find its boundaries and are less freaked out when you find a new one. There are lots of things that FSD doesn't do right in fairly normal driving. We should let Tesla get those sorted out before expecting it to handle places like south Boston, Mumbai, Beijing, etc. in their worst conditions. I am not a believer that it will be Level 4 this year, but it does get better all the time, and as long as I know its limitations, and when to expect to intervene, it does a good job.

I agree with you. But potential purchaser of FSD and TSLA stockholders shouldn't be misled by seeing selective performance of FSD. Truly autonomous driving will be achieved by Tesla and many others eventually. But that's not going to happen in a few years. It may even become standard on many vehicles by 2035.

 

[Ogre]

Sure, we should only expect to see FSD operating on empty streets or low traffic simple drives to see how it is progressing. Otherwise we can just count on hearing from Musk every year or two that autonomous driving will be here by the end of the year. Let's censure everything else.
Now please go back to China if you want everything censured. Seriously as an investor in TSLA I don't want to see how FSD only performs by cherry picked drivers that are approved because they also drive in low risk areas. Tesla will open itself up to lawsuits if it targets FSD drivers in real world difficult traffic conditions while allowing stooges to post driver's ed routes. These lawsuits will be from FSD purchasers as well as Class Action ones from TSLA stockholders.

This is not remotely what I suggested.

Use It how people normally drive. That’s it.

Use it when going to work, getting groceries, when taking the dog for a walk.

 

[happy intruder]

I agree with everything said about FSD, both good and bad.......but I still believe it wont be fully operationally for another 2-4 years

 

[ajdelange]

Drivers agree to a NDA when they enter the FSD Beta program. It's not "censorship".

I wasn’t asked to sign an NDA.

 

[Ogre]

I agree with everything said about FSD, both good and bad.......but I still believe it wont be fully operationally for another 2-4 years

The joy of FSD is how flexible the definition seems to be.

Robotaxi? At least 3+ years out.

Hands free driver assist in geo fenced areas? Maybe by end of year.

 

[JJ_Tex]

It is an emerging technology in beta testing, driving in a very challenging environment. Of course it is going to get some things right, some things wrong... it is all part of the development process.

It is not like Tesla has opened up FSD to everyone and said it is ready for the masses.

 

[Ogre]

It is an emerging technology in beta testing, driving in a very challenging environment. Of course it is going to get some things right, some things wrong... it is all part of the development process.

It is not like Tesla has opened up FSD to everyone and said it is ready for the masses.

Musk has suggested it will be by year end.

 

[Crissa]

Musk has suggested it will be by year end.

He suggests that biyearly.

-Crissa

 

[Bill906]

Since it’s a slow news day and we‘re all bored, I’ll add my two cents…

One of the goals of FSD is that it will be better than a human driver. Well, I bet if you took a random human from rural America and plopped them into one of these busy, complex and confusing roads of congested urban areas it would be just as bad. My mom has always lived in a very small rural town. Anytime she decides to go shopping in the big city (like Green Bay) I get scared. I cannot see her doing much better than many of these videos of FSD in the same circumstances.

 

[happy intruder]

It is an emerging technology in beta testing, driving in a very challenging environment. Of course it is going to get some things right, some things wrong... it is all part of the development process.

It is not like Tesla has opened up FSD to everyone and said it is ready for the masses.

yes....I have it but I guarantee you I am very attentive and ready to react.....like being shot off the Cat when I was in the service......one hand on power, one on ejection handle and the stick between knees......

only ejected once and it was more than an E-ticket ride

 

[m.delmed129]

Drivers agree to a NDA when they enter the FSD Beta program. It's not "censorship".

I’m in the FSD Beta program, and I did not sign nor agree to an NDA

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