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Yeah reading forums and helpings kids with homework shows how great my multitasking skills and reading comprehension have gone downhill!! 🤦
Lol happens to me too. I have a kid in calculus, trying to remember the darn formulas and order of operations, which I haven’t used in 20yrs, kills me. You’re all good!
 
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The dual motor gets the white panels added. And maybe the wheels are an upgrade that are standard on the tri. That’s all I can think off.
 


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So only the Cyberbeast gets the $4,000 install credit? Everyone seemed to be under the impression both AWD and Beast included it. The AWD Foundation doesn't get the light bar either. Yet still $20k for the "same" package.
Yeah that is a bit puzzling since it’s the same 20k. I feel like it should be 15k for the AWD
It should be for both. You're paying 20 grand more for both and the Cyberbeast already only gets the added off-road light, or so I thought. With the dual motor version you're also giving up possibly getting the tax credit, so you're paying closer to 30 grand more and getting less stuff?
while I certainly get the sentiment and would feel the same way in your shoes:

from the arms-length comfort of not having a stake in the game, I’d say the reasoning here isn’t too unfamiliar

Say you’re looking at nice hotel rooms.

Cost of a ‘base’ room is $800/night, cost of a ‘premium’ room is $1,000/night.

For a $200 add-on, either room can get a ‘romance’ package.

For the base room, $200 romance package comes with a rose peddles on the pillow, late checkout, and a nice bottle of wine.

For the premium room, $200 romance package comes with rose peddles, late checkout, two bottles of wine, and free porn.

The hotel isn’t selling you peddles and wine, etc., for $200

The hotel is is giving you a different rate, for a different service, for more money. The service you get for giving the hotel a total of $1,000/night is not as good as the service you get for giving the hotel $1,200 night.



Not the least of reasons being: they’re making more money of the person spending $1,2000/night, and incentivizing more people to spend $1,200 rather than only $1,000.

People are likely only confused because they’ve rationalized the extra $20K based on the MSRP of the items included in the trims.

You’re buying a $100K truck, or a $120K truck, and the more you spend the more you get.
 
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while I certainly get the sentiment and would feel the same way in your shoes:

from the arms-length comfort of not having a stake in the game, I’d say the reasoning here isn’t too unfamiliar

Say you’re looking at nice hotel rooms.

Cost of a ‘base’ room is $800/night, cost of a ‘premium’ room is $1,000/night.

For a $200 add-on, either room can get a ‘romance’ package.

For the base room, $200 romance package comes with a rose peddles on the pillow, late checkout, and a nice bottle of wine.

For the premium room, $200 romance package comes with rose peddles, late checkout, two bottles of wine, and free porn.

The hotel isn’t selling you peddles and wine, etc., for $200

The hotel is is giving you a different rate, for a different service, for more money. The service you get for giving the hotel a total of $1,000/night is not as good as the service you get for giving the hotel $1,200 night.



Not the least of reasons being: they’re making more money of the person spending $1,2000/night, and incentivizing more people to spend $1,200 rather than only $1,000.

People are likely only confused because they’ve rationalized the extra $20K based on the MSRP of the items included in the trims.

You’re buying a $100K truck, or a $120K truck, and the more you spend the more you get.
I think if we break it down, items that come stock on the Cyberbeast are being upgraded on the AWD, so they are sweeting the pot for the Cyberbeast and that’s the delta? (Thinking premium rims/tires?) honestly don’t know and kinda grasping for straws
 

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while I certainly get the sentiment and would feel the same way in your shoes:

from the arms-length comfort of not having a stake in the game, I’d say the reasoning here isn’t too unfamiliar

Say you’re looking at nice hotel rooms.

Cost of a ‘base’ room is $800/night, cost of a ‘premium’ room is $1,000/night.

For a $200 add-on, either room can get a ‘romance’ package.

For the base room, $200 romance package comes with a rose peddles on the pillow, late checkout, and a nice bottle of wine.

For the premium room, $200 romance package comes with rose peddles, late checkout, two bottles of wine, and free porn.

The hotel isn’t selling you peddles and wine, etc., for $200

The hotel is is giving you a different rate, for a different service, for more money. The service you get for giving the hotel a total of $1,000/night is not as good as the service you get for giving the hotel $1,200 night.



Not the least of reasons being: they’re making more money of the person spending $1,2000/night, and incentivizing more people to spend $1,200 rather than only $1,000.

People are likely only confused because they’ve rationalized the extra $20K based on the MSRP of the items included in the trims.

You’re buying a $100K truck, or a $120K truck, and the more you spend the more you get.

I've personally never seen any rooms operate like that, whether it be a Marriott or an Aman. The base room would include different perks, not the Romance package.
 


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while I certainly get the sentiment and would feel the same way in your shoes:

from the arms-length comfort of not having a stake in the game, I’d say the reasoning here isn’t too unfamiliar

Say you’re looking at nice hotel rooms.

Cost of a ‘base’ room is $800/night, cost of a ‘premium’ room is $1,000/night.

For a $200 add-on, either room can get a ‘romance’ package.

For the base room, $200 romance package comes with a rose peddles on the pillow, late checkout, and a nice bottle of wine.

For the premium room, $200 romance package comes with rose peddles, late checkout, two bottles of wine, and free porn.

The hotel isn’t selling you peddles and wine, etc., for $200

The hotel is is giving you a different rate, for a different service, for more money. The service you get for giving the hotel a total of $1,000/night is not as good as the service you get for giving the hotel $1,200 night.



Not the least of reasons being: they’re making more money of the person spending $1,2000/night, and incentivizing more people to spend $1,200 rather than only $1,000.

People are likely only confused because they’ve rationalized the extra $20K based on the MSRP of the items included in the trims.

You’re buying a $100K truck, or a $120K truck, and the more you spend the more you get.
Agree with your sentiment and it’s an issue with Tesla vehicles honestly. The vehicles are essentially the same, sans an additional motor. Some may see it as they are paying the additional 20k toward the base price for the Beast and that the separate Foundation 20k is a packaged add-on that should apply to each.

This is seen on other models. I paid more for my Plaid for just the motors and the spoiler. (One of the reasons I opted for DM)
 

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I think if we break it down, items that come stock on the Cyberbeast are being upgraded on the AWD, so they are sweeting the pot for the Cyberbeast and that’s the delta? (Thinking premium rims/tires?) honestly don’t know and kinda grasping for straws
Unlikely based on current Code. Premium wheels/tires appear to be an extra fee even for CyberBeast.
 

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I have a 12 year old 7kWh solar install with Kyocera panels and a Fronius inverter.

Would it be possible to swap out my Fronius inverter for the Tesla integrated inverter with gateway and have this operational? All the wiring is in place including for my existing Tesla wall connector.

This is a big selling point to me. I am unable to install Powerwalls as I have nowhere to put them.
 

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I've personally never seen any rooms operate like that, whether it be a Marriott or an Aman. The base room would include different perks, not the Romance package.
You’re seemingly assuming that the “room perks” components and the “package” components are some … fundamental, out of the hotel owners control.

they’re merely choosing how to package together things they are selling to you


in any event, if that analogy doesn’t work for you on some perceived technicality, maybe this one:

buy 100 widgets, cost is $100
Buy 1,000 widgets, cost is $900
Busy 10,000 widgets, cost is $8,000

“no fair, people spending $8,000 are getting widgets for $0.80 a piece, and I’m buying $100 and getting them at $1.00 a piece


Or you can just skip to the end part:


People are likely only confused because they’ve rationalized the extra $20K based on the MSRP of the items included in the trims.

You’re buying a $100K truck, or a $120K truck, and the more you spend the more you het. .
it’s just a different way of pointing out what others have mentioned and (I thought) should be obvious: what’s included in the base for $80, or the beast for $100 aren’t… fundamental, either.

Tesla has chosen to not include premium wheels or white trim in the base for $80K, but include them in the beast for $100k

Same deal with the Foundation pricing/inclusions.
 

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You’re seemingly assuming that the “room perks” components and the “package” components are some … fundamental, out of the hotel owners control.

they’re merely choosing how to package together things they are selling to you


in any event, if that analogy doesn’t work for you on some perceived technicality, maybe this one:

buy 100 widgets, cost is $100
Buy 1,000 widgets, cost is $900
Busy 10,000 widgets, cost is $8,000

“no fair, people spending $8,000 are getting widgets for $0.80 a piece, and I’m buying $100 and getting them at $1.00 a piece


Or you can just skip to the end part:




it’s just a different way of pointing out what others have mentioned and (I thought) should be obvious: what’s included in the base for $80, or the beast for $100 aren’t… fundamental, either.

Tesla has chosen to not include premium wheels or white trim in the base for $80K, but include them in the beast for $100k

Same deal with the Foundation pricing/inclusions.
I'm not confusing anything lol. Agree to disagree.
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