Cybertruck V2H (Vehicle to Home) Survey - “Install Powershare Home Backup” w/ $4000 install allowance for Cyberbeast Foundation (no credit for AWD)

[REM]

Just sent in my response. We already have some wall connectors installed so hoping its a fairly easy replace one of them with the new UWC and the Gateway v3. No powerwalls for our house though.

Which version do you currently have? looking to sell one when you get the new charger?

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[HellsNels]

Which version do you currently have? looking to sell one when you get the new charger?

Whew I think it’s like a V1. The one that didn’t have the networking features in it yet or swappable face plates. We’re giving it to a family member who’s been too lazy to install one and still relies on his mobile connector kit lol.

 

[Tanquen]

I'm not confusing anything lol. Agree to disagree.

I thought the only differences were the Off-Road only light and the 2 v 3 motor specs?

 

[MilliM]

I have a 12 year old 7kWh solar install with Kyocera panels and a Fronius inverter.

Would it be possible to swap out my Fronius inverter for the Tesla integrated inverter with gateway and have this operational? All the wiring is in place including for my existing Tesla wall connector.

This is a big selling point to me. I am unable to install Powerwalls as I have nowhere to put them.

I’d love to do the same with my old SunPower inverter (keeping my older SunPower panels). Don’t know how realistic that is.

 

[REM]

Whew I think it’s like a V1. The one that didn’t have the networking features in it yet or swappable face plates. We’re giving it to a family member who’s been too lazy to install one and still relies on his mobile connector kit lol.

oh ok, good deal lol

I've been trying to hold out to see if they come out with a V3 for the cybertruck. I'm hoping they release a 80/100 amp version next. Probably won't happen, but I can dream...

 

[tenetke]

It should be for both. You're paying 20 grand more for both and the Cyberbeast already only gets the added off-road light, or so I thought. With the dual motor version you're also giving up possibly getting the tax credit, so you're paying closer to 30 grand more and getting less stuff?

What about using a section 179 and/or a clean commercial vehicle $7500 credit. Either seems fine for the stuff at their respective pricing.

 

[BayouCityBob]

I am fine not getting the $4k installation credit. There is NFW I am going to pay anything close to $4k to install this in any case. We are building a new house, will throw installation into the build plan. I know what it costs to install a whole house backup system and transfer switch and it is not close to $4k.

 

[JBee]

while I certainly get the sentiment and would feel the same way in your shoes:

from the arms-length comfort of not having a stake in the game, I’d say the reasoning here isn’t too unfamiliar

Say you’re looking at nice hotel rooms.

Cost of a ‘base’ room is $800/night, cost of a ‘premium’ room is $1,000/night.

For a $200 add-on, either room can get a ‘romance’ package.

For the base room, $200 romance package comes with a rose peddles on the pillow, late checkout, and a nice bottle of wine.

For the premium room, $200 romance package comes with rose peddles, late checkout, two bottles of wine, and free porn.

The hotel isn’t selling you peddles and wine, etc., for $200

The hotel is is giving you a different rate, for a different service, for more money. The service you get for giving the hotel a total of $1,000/night is not as good as the service you get for giving the hotel $1,200 night.



Not the least of reasons being: they’re making more money of the person spending $1,2000/night, and incentivizing more people to spend $1,200 rather than only $1,000.

People are likely only confused because they’ve rationalized the extra $20K based on the MSRP of the items included in the trims.

You’re buying a $100K truck, or a $120K truck, and the more you spend the more you get.

I've never booked a $1000 a night room, let alone one that charges extra for a "romance package". I mean how romantic is it if they do all the hard work for you?

A good tent, sleeping bags and comfy self inflating matress, seems way more cost effective to sleep under the stars.

So this analogy is completely lost on me.

BUT...quite simply the CB has a much larger profit margin that the AWD so adding these little perks has less of a hit to the bottom line. I mean the CB's extra motor probably only costs them ~$2000, but you're paying an extra $20k for it, paying another $20k only really makes sense if you value the exclusivity of the Foundation edition, or intend to sell it to someone who does. For the few seconds less, of extra enjoyment a CB brings accelerating, is it really worth the cost, especially if you don't get the rebate as well?

PLUS.... CB has a much later delivery time, so like this they can incentivise to defer some deliveries to later in the year.

 

[cvalue13]

I've never booked a $1000 a night room, let alone one that charges extra for a "romance package".

Was only using mirrored prices for the analogy, less two zeros!

I try to sell my romance package often as possible though

 

[CyberDude510]

Just got an email asking for my info so they can match me up with an installer for my powershare, but it says I cover the install cost.... I could have sworn it said installation was included up to $4k. Was I imagining this?

Install Powershare Home Backup Powershare Home Backup allows you to power your home with the energy stored in your Cybertruck’s battery pack, helping keep the lights on for up to three days when outages occur.* Your order is eligible for free Powershare Home Backup hardware—you just cover the installation cost. Take our survey to confirm your interest.** We will reach out to you with more information and connect you with a Tesla Certified Installer.​

 

[BayouCityBob]

CyberBeast $4k allowance for install, dual motor none.

 

[C T Rick]

Ford's FAQ use 30 kWh/day as well in their example.
However, Tesla 11.5 kW and Ford 19.2 kW so a fair amount higher. 1.67 times higher power output.

Has something changed? Thought the Ford was 7.2kw or is that the max at the bed outlet and not the powershare features?

Rick

 

[scottf200]

Has something changed? Thought the Ford was 7.2kw or is that the max at the bed outlet and not the powershare features?

Rick

Yes, I think you understand the distinction.

19.2 kW with Ford Charge Station Pro charger.

PDF on the Ford Charge Station Pro charger.
https://www.ford.com/cmslibs/conten...ning/pdf/FordChargeStationPro-Specs_06_v2.pdf

 

[canyoncarver]

19.2kW and 80 amps is outstanding for a whole home backup as it should handle situations where you might have multiple high start loads such as an AC kicking on at the same time other major appliances are in use.

Tesla option is still really good depending on what all is required to make it operational. I'd also still like to know if I put in a Tesla inverter if it would allow me to use the Tesla vehicle to home capability on the CT and I'm assuming would also allow my solar to operate during a power outage.

 

[C T Rick]

Yes, I think you understand the distinction.

19.2 kW with Ford Charge Station Pro charger.

PDF on the Ford Charge Station Pro charger.
https://www.ford.com/cmslibs/conten...ning/pdf/FordChargeStationPro-Specs_06_v2.pdf

What I'm reading is 80 amp vehicle charging rate. Not the vehicle to home power sharing like tesla is doing.

Am I right or confused?

Rick

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