I'm still getting my Foundation Series, but I can't help but feel bitter...

[BayouCityBob]

IDK, as I see it, for the Dual Motor that I reserved in 2019:

• Price is $30k higher and that blows
• Payload (do not care and do not think they under promised only managing to GVWR)
• Lost a seat, do not care
• Lost a ramp - a little bummed

Then there is a lot of bonus stuff that matters a LOT to my use case:

• Range is significantly better than what was promised (300+ miles is now 340 with road wheels and 318 with ATs)
• Charging was 250+ kw now 350kw 800V super fast charging (#1 most important thing to me)
• V2H super useful extra power wall capacity
• 0-60 in 4.1 Seconds instead of 4.5 (like that, who wouldn't?)
• 4 wheel steering makes it useable in the city
• Outside is smaller, bed is still 6 ft, nice
• Very quiet cabin with active noise cancellation
• Smooth, car-like ride (ride was the reason I hated my Silverado)
• More clearance (17 vs promised 16) for hurricane season
• I can bump to 470 miles of range anytime I want with the extender pack, was not expecting that.

On the puts and takes vs the original DM reveal, the price is the big negative but most of the rest is better than promised IMO.

On the Tri-Motor, there is the big range disappointment but I did not reserve that and did not buy it when I had the chance, but I agree it is a huge reverse.

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[CyberTW]

Man the grapes are sour on this thread. Sounds like this is one of the worst trucks to come to market in a while. No features whatsoever.. steer by wire - useless. Tight turn radius with 4 wheels turning - I don’t need that to park at Costco. A thinner skin that yields the same safety - they are just admitting they couldn’t do it. Bi directional - everyone knows that’s dumb and not needed. It’s too small - any truck manufacturer could build an Ev that is F350 size with a lot of battery and get 500 mile range .. and not only build it, but scale it for profit. They hit more than the AWD specs - but no one will want that.
And no ramp? There are millions of truck people who need to get their dune rides in the back.. just so inconsiderate.. that tonneau you can stand on.. well 3 people can’t jump on it… weak sauce. Their tech in their vehicle… shoot ford and Dodge and Chevy have much better software and tech.. at least comparable.. Tesla is bragging about it, but those other truck are more luxurious (more buttons, middle seats to push more buttons. Oh and who wants a weakened SS “exoskeleton”. Give me my paint and normal truck doors. That’s durability. Tesla doesn’t know truck people.


Gonna be hard to tow without 500 mile range (especially in winter spaces).. this.. I agree.

Maybe this just isn’t the truck for some people.

Suggestion - Don’t Hate buy the truck. You’ll just be more bitter

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[CyberTW]

IDK, as I see it, for the Dual Motor that I reserved in 2019:

• Price is $30k higher and that blows
• Payload (do not care and do not think they under promised only managing to GVWR)
• Lost a seat, do not care
• Lost a ramp - a little bummed

Then there is a lot of bonus stuff that matters a LOT to my use case:

• Range is significantly better than what was promised (300+ miles is now 340 with road wheels and 318 with ATs)
• Charging was 250+ kw now 350kw 800V super fast charging (#1 most important thing to me)
• V2H super useful extra power wall capacity
• 0-60 in 4.1 Seconds instead of 4.5 (like that, who wouldn't?)
• 4 wheel steering makes it useable in the city
• Outside is smaller, bed is still 6 ft, nice
• Very quiet cabin with active noise cancellation
• Smooth, car-like ride (ride was the reason I hated my Silverado)
• More clearance (17 vs promised 16) for hurricane season
• I can bump to 470 miles of range anytime I want with the extender pack, was not expecting that.

On the puts and takes vs the original DM reveal, the price is the big negative but most of the rest is better than promised IMO.

On the Tri-Motor, there is the big range disappointment but I did not reserve that and did not buy it when I had the chance, but I agree it is a huge reverse.

Agreed.. and I understand the tow sadness.. we’ll see what the range extender is like. The price .. high now, but will come down

 

[CyberTruck46290]

I'm a Texan who has driven nothing but big trucks my whole life, and I fell in love with the aggressiveness of the original beast.

Originally $69,900 for:

• Tires: 35x13.5(?)r20 Mud-Tires
• Range: 500+ miles
• Towing capacity: More than 14,000 lbs
• Payload: Up to 3,500 lbs
• Bed: Stainless
• Steel thickness: 3 mm
• Light-bar: Integrated
• Tailgate: Integrated Ramp

Now $99,990 for:

• Tires: 35x11r20 Hybrid (all-terrain tread)
• Range: 320 miles
• Towing capacity: 11,000 lbs
• Payload: 2,500 lbs
• Bed: Rubber/Plastic
• Steel thickness: ~1.4 mm
• Light-bar: Optioned
• Tailgate: No Ramp

The truck is scaled smaller, has less range, less towing, less storage, less material, less cells, and many of the original features are now no longer or available for an added cost.

I'm still buying, but getting less of a truck for nearly double the original price is leaving a bitter taste in my mouth. At the very least, I wish could just get the original truck. I never asked to scale it to fit in my garage.

I agree. I am a minute 1 reservation holder and can't wait to get my invite. I'm all in. For the unveiling, I made it an event with a steak dinner and scotch. I sold a Porsche to lease a M3 in hopes it may help my status with a quicker invite. On delivery day, I took off from work. Again I am all in and will by the Tri Motor as soon as I can, but it is less for more. Less battery, less steel. No ramp. More expensive. Inflation and shrinkflation both. For anyone to say otherwise is on another planet. Again I've accepted it, but to the people refuting OP, I don't know what else to say.

 

[JBee]

lol He literally said what it would be and laughed at manufacturers that don’t deliver close to the prototype like Tesla does. And that’s coming from being a Tesla invested from the early days, owning a Tesla, buying this Tesla, and planning to buy more in the future. Your just blinded by fandom.

Nothing to do with fandom, I can list a whole range of things I would of done different, and I have, over thousands of posts here.

But that is exactly my point, we, neither you or me, a privy to the details of Tesla's decision making process.

It's just that I seemingly have the ability, unlike you, to segregate the actual fictional "promises" from what is now being delivered in reality.

It should be absolutely obvious that Tesla is optimising this for the average user.

In all aspects the most common model, being the AWD, is far superior to the original DM model offered, even range and towing.

Except for in price, which is also a consequence of inflation (say thanks to the USA money pump for that one), which Tesla can not control.

If you ordered the TM that's your own fault, as it represents the poorest value for money offering by far, let alone as a Foundation edition without rebates.

That's not a failure of Tesla to deliver, that is simply a failure of yours to choose the best value option, for whatever reason.

For the same money you could easily get the DM with range extender, and end up in a value proposition than with a TM, and have the range you wanted as well.

There is no meaningful advantage to having the TM except acceleration, if that's what you want, then feel free to pay for it. Most of us are smart enough and won't.

 

[CyberTruck46290]

The story of why they went from 3mm to 1.8 / 1.4 mm HFS is explained here in the Munro video (~2:35). Short version: originally designed with 3mm, equipment designed to run 3mm, were able to adjust steel formula to get same strength out of thinner material.

I saw that video. So less steel (material) should have reduced cost.

 

[JBee]

I saw that video. So less steel (material) should have reduced cost.

All the SS on the whole vehicle costs less than $900.

The SS costs less than the paint would to cover it.

How much do you want off the price? $300?

 

[scottf200]

I mean the high capacity V2X is already worth $5-10k extra in my book.

I think V2X was always coming because it was a requirement for NACS being used for other vehicles (ie. Ford had it and would still need it for job site and for the V2H aspect they campaigned on day 1). As well it was in the NACS spec already but with an undetermined implementation date.

 

[Bkb13]

Just to add another data point. In 2019 to 2024 a F150 2WD short bed regular cab went from $28,155 to $36,570. That’s a $8,415 difference amounting to a 29.8% increase in the time it took to release the Cybertruck.

The Cybertruck pricing increase doesn’t look so bad when you start looking at comparibles.

 

[WHIZZARD OF OZ]

I'm a Texan who has driven nothing but big trucks my whole life, and I fell in love with the aggressiveness of the original beast.

Originally $69,900 for:

• Tires: 35x13.5(?)r20 Mud-Tires
• Range: 500+ miles
• Towing capacity: More than 14,000 lbs
• Payload: Up to 3,500 lbs
• Bed: Stainless
• Steel thickness: 3 mm
• Light-bar: Integrated
• Tailgate: Integrated Ramp

Now $99,990 for:

• Tires: 35x11r20 Hybrid (all-terrain tread)
• Range: 320 miles
• Towing capacity: 11,000 lbs
• Payload: 2,500 lbs
• Bed: Rubber/Plastic
• Steel thickness: ~1.4 mm
• Light-bar: Optioned
• Tailgate: No Ramp

The truck is scaled smaller, has less range, less towing, less storage, less material, less cells, and many of the original features are now no longer or available for an added cost.

I'm still buying, but getting less of a truck for nearly double the original price is leaving a bitter taste in my mouth. At the very least, I wish could just get the original truck. I never asked to scale it to fit in my garage.

Got a feeling you will overcome 'bitter' when you first drive it. You might even think 'better' than......in fact if it's any consolation, the doors are 1.8mm while the sail panel and front quarter are the 1.4 you mentioned. Probably bullet proof body all over.....not that you asked for that!

 

[WHIZZARD OF OZ]

Again, I've ordered the tri-motor. Specs all got worse, no longer has an exoskeleton, and the truck is now less capable and less attractive for twice the money. Now way around that. They got a free 4-5 year loan from many people based off claims that never came to fruition. No other way to spin it.

I still like the truck and love Tesla, but it's a bit of a fail if you ask me. Still I've secured my order and am patiently waiting delivery, because the truck even today is better than anything in the market. It's just not leaps and bounds like hinted at.

I know for a fact it's had an 'EXOSEKELTON'
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[WHIZZARD OF OZ]

Once the decision to purchase is made, I think bitterness should not be part of the equation.

Doesn't make sense, who buys begrudgingly?


I am in the same boat. Disappointed in some ways, but overall will be happy as Larry.

Please be happy and enjoy.

C'est la vie.

Charlie, you know Larry too?

 

[CyberTruck46290]

Just to add another data point. In 2019 to 2024 a F150 2WD short bed regular cab went from $28,155 to $36,570. That’s a $8,415 difference amounting to a 29.8% increase in the time it took to release the Cybertruck.

The Cybertruck pricing increase doesn’t look so bad when you start looking at comparibles.

It's more than that though. Did the F150 gas tank reduce by 30% in size too?

 

[Bkb13]

It's more than that though. Did the F150 gas tank reduce by 30% in size too?

Valid point and I am personally buying the range extender.

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