Maybe Single motor is all you need?

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I have driven a few 300Cs, worst ones were with the cylinder deactivation, one an SRT and was pretty good. IMO only Dodge products that would compare to a Tesla is a Hellcat product.

With an ICE vehicle a lot of energy is lost that doesn't happen with a quality BEV. If you have an opportunity try taking a recent Model S out for a test drive, it will put a smile on your face

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Without knowing anything about your 300C I am still pretty confident that your CT would leave it in the dust.
That may be the understatement of the year. ;)
 

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So I have the dual on order but starting to think hard about the single motor. I live in South Florida so no weather issues that require awd and I wonā€™t be towing ever. Is the 250 mileage plenty even for a road trip that wouldnā€™t be often? Iā€™m starting to think so but still not totally convinced and I know there is a possibility of the ranges getting pushed higher which would help.
My understanding is the dual motor and the tri-motor will be first in production. Depending upon your patience, either will work well for your situation. I have a single motor model 3 deep in the mountains of Oregon and I have fewer traction issues than I have ever had with my Fords, Chevys, Dodges, Nissans, Toyotas, Hondas, trucks, cars, and glorified go-karts. As for range, even in the winter where I have less available range, I have no issues driving the 270 miles to Portland from my eastern Oregon town, even though there are only 2 chargers in between.
 

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So I have the dual on order but starting to think hard about the single motor. I live in South Florida so no weather issues that require awd and I wonā€™t be towing ever. Is the 250 mileage plenty even for a road trip that wouldnā€™t be often? Iā€™m starting to think so but still not totally convinced and I know there is a possibility of the ranges getting pushed higher which would help.
Lucky you!

RWD CT is the deal of the century. I would not hesitate living on the Atlantic side driving N-S. RWD would be my choice. You are paying $10ā€™s of 1000ā€™s dollars for the FU luxury to blow past a Supercharger if you buy-up.

RWD is awesome and the least expensive Cybertruck. At the end of the day the star of the show will be Cyber not truck. RWD is a no compromise Cyber-first choice. Its still CT just not cells to the rails Kwā€™s and 4 wheels driving all-the-time. I think that is a good thing, less wear and no tear.

It leaves the wallet with money to spend on options to go with such a new toy.

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CyberTruck for $40k is just an amazing deal. However, consider the functionality of a truck, where AWD is really something you want if you ever use it as a "truck". Plus, $40k will probably be elusive just like the $35k M3.

Also, range is an issue. I have a 2017 MS75 (RWD) and it's a great car, but I've driven it cross-country a few times, and the low range (<250) gets annoying on road trips.

I was originally planning on buying a dual motor, which I believe is the sweet spot for range, features, and price. However I'm a TSLA investor and 2020's gains upgraded me to tri-motor.
 


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My understanding is the dual motor and the tri-motor will be first in production. Depending upon your patience, either will work well for your situation. I have a single motor model 3 deep in the mountains of Oregon and I have fewer traction issues than I have ever had with my Fords, Chevys, Dodges, Nissans, Toyotas, Hondas, trucks, cars, and glorified go-karts. As for range, even in the winter where I have less available range, I have no issues driving the 270 miles to Portland from my eastern Oregon town, even though there are only 2 chargers in between.
I have a dual motor reservation and most likely I will stay with the dual, but if I'm being honest with myself the single motor would fulfill my needs over 99% of the miles. It rarely snows here and I rarely go on road trips where 250 miles of range would be an obstacle. The attractiveness of the dual motor usually comes from the "what if..." thinking. What if we get a massive snowstorm like we did 10 years ago? What if I want to drive to that remote area I've never been to before? What if I drive down on the beach and the sand is soft? But again, these are all super rare situations...
 

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I have a dual motor reservation and most likely I will stay with the dual, but if I'm being honest with myself the single motor would fulfill my needs over 99% of the miles. It rarely snows here and I rarely go on road trips where 250 miles of range would be an obstacle. The attractiveness of the dual motor usually comes from the "what if..." thinking. What if we get a massive snowstorm like we did 10 years ago? What if I want to drive to that remote area I've never been to before? What if I drive down on the beach and the sand is soft? But again, these are all super rare situations...
Iā€™m at a place between dual and tri. AWD is a given up over here. And Iā€™m leaning towards tri although 95% of driving is less than 100km (these were the approx statistics released here by the EV foundation). But for the city and commutes (one of us) we have the Model 3 (or another small city EV). Besides being the second car when we need it the CT is for trips and adventure, and although itā€™s hard to go any direction without passing a supercharger these days, itā€™s nice to shave off an hour or more of charging when your on that trip just once in a while (and sometimes choose nicer places for breaks than a supercharger next to burger joint or mall). Also to get to the cabin or to the wilderness another place you usually take roads with less (no) charging infrastructure in the end where the tri leads to less range anxiety and more exploring. Nobody likes a stressed out dad on a family outing. Finally, even if CT was the only car, battery health will be better on a bigger battery than the smallest with the same use case. The price difference seems to be worth it to me, but YMMV. If I also can use it as an emergency battery for our home it is a given.

Of course I will break my own premises in the beginning and use it to drive in the city like an idiot and also park next to my bossā€™ Jaguar ?
 
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With Teslaā€™s history of changing their minds about making the base models Iā€™ve decided to just stick with the dual motor. But who knows anything can happen between now and the end of next year.
 

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Iā€˜ve unfortunately been in Colorado Springs for all their early snow storms and let me tell you driving my rental Subaru awd did nothing for the ice that happened after the snowfall.
Don't underestimate the value of good winter tires with AWD. maybe the Subaru didn't have the proper rubber for the season.
 

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I totally agree! $39,900 is a STEAL! The night of the reveal, I was thinking, how can Tesla sell their other cars for so much more? The CT is going to steal sales from the rest of the fleet. Living in So. Cal. with some of the most benign weather in the world and being 64, I don't need AWD. 3400 lbs capacity is awesome and towing 7500lbs would be fine, the boat launch is 2 miles from my house. My E250 van that the CT is replacing, does 0-60 in about 10sec. the 250 mile range seemed fine. But, then as time went on I started doing some Virtual trips online with abetterrouteplanner, and it appears that on a road trip you would never drive over 200 miles between stops. Also the Supercharging takes longer when you are charging to top off the batteries. So Dual or Tri is now looking more likely.
the CT is cheaper to make than their other models. painting is expensive.
 


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Trimotor for me...... i live in a town of 80k and the next town of the same size is about 650 km south... single motor won't cut it.
 

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Trimotor for me...... i live in a town of 80k and the next town of the same size is about 650 km south... single motor won't cut it.
@jerhenderson picking up on your Subaru ā€œiceā€ experience regarding AWD/RWD here. Ordered CT when living in Tesuque. Spent 9 years in UTAH. Its famous for ice - black ice!

NOTHING can help you on ice and black ice is the worst case since you canā€™t see it. AWD-CT is the better choice as it helps on-ice to keep cf in straightline - IF you are moving. Subaruā€™s AWD is the best Iā€™ve driven on ice. Owned ā€˜76 and ā€˜79 wagons shift on the fly. They saved my ass more times than I care to admit. If you didnā€™t like Subaru, you are going to be disappointed when CT spins all fours on ice. My worst ice was it bringing momentum to a halt then helplessly watching the car slide off the side of a mountain into puckerbrush. You can not standup on black ice. 4x4, AWD, posi-trac, et. al. no use at all.

Doubt studs would overcome momentum once youā€™re sliding on black ice to stop a truck from going over the edge. They definitely dig through snow and snow packed icey roads to get you unstuck, moving again. Keep tire treads fresh, air down, carry sand and pray you donā€™t get surprised.
 

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Don't underestimate the value of good winter tires with AWD. maybe the Subaru didn't have the proper rubber for the season.
Ice is a horse of a different color altogether. I slid backwards downhill in a Mitsubishi GSX AWD with good rubber. Nearly new. You need studded tires to have any hope of traction there, and I'm not sure studs would suffice. Maybe chains. All four of us slipped, fell, and slid down the hill as we exited the vehicle. The tow truck couldn't get close. There is such a thing as NOT DRIVING when ice is on the road. I learned my lesson.
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