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Good on ya, mate! That's what I said.



It will be finished enough for you to drive it whenever you think it's good enough for you. Based on my observation, I'll take it right now. On my early production Model 3, I loved to watch the over-the-air improvements in real time. I had the oportunity to see the early Model 3 RWD Long Range improve, and then we got one of the first Performance AWD versions and I watched that improve, most notably, when they delivered Track Mode with the individual sliders for 0-100% front to rear power bias and 0-100% electronic traction and stability control (it can be dialed up or down as desired). As I recall, at the same time they released Track Mode, they also improved the handling dynamics by adjusting the way the default (non-Track Mode) traction control worked going into and out of corners.

If I get to watch the Cybertruck hill climbing ability improve while I own it, that's just a bonus. If you want to wait until it's up to your presumably high standards, that's up to you.



The suspension did look overly firm and high. Probably for reasons of getting more cut and dried data for tuning the traction system.



Yeah, that's obvious. And the Cybertruck in the video was not using it's entire suspension travel to the best effect due to being set too stiffly. But, as indicated above, I think that wqas likely deliberate to get better data for tuning the power transfer of the traction control.



Have we seen anti-sway bars on the Cybertruck? I don't think I have. Were there any visible in the crash video? The one talen from under the truck? I don't recall seeing any. I'm hoping Tesla has figured out a way to get good on-road cornering without them, perhaps by leveraging the adjustable suspension independently. But that may be too tall of an order in terms of other design considerations (like minimizing the energy consumption and service intervals of the adjustable suspension).
Yeah it has fairly beefy stock standard ones front and rear. There's a few pictures from the suspension in the wheel wells you can see them.

I hope they are easy to modify, or that the CT comes with an offroad pack. Like AT tyres, spare, diff locks, detachable/active sway bars and a set of maxtrax.

Or at least an electric rear locker, or LSD standard.
 

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Yeah it has fairly beefy stock standard ones front and rear. There's a few pictures from the suspension in the wheel wells you can see them.

I hope they are easy to modify, or that the CT comes with an offroad pack. Like AT tyres, spare, diff locks, detachable/active sway bars and a set of maxtrax.

Or at least an electric rear locker, or LSD standard.
I thought you were hoping to take delivery of a tri or quad motor. There would be no point in implementing a rear locking differential on a truck that doesn't have a rear differential.

All Tesla drive motors already have high precision rotational position sensors on the rotors. That's all the drive controller needs to perfectly simulate a mechanical locker without having a rear locking differential (or any differential at all, for that matter).
 

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I thought you were hoping to take delivery of a tri or quad motor. There would be no point in implementing a rear locking differential on a truck that doesn't have a rear differential.

All Tesla drive motors already have high precision rotational position sensors on the rotors. That's all the drive controller needs to perfectly simulate a mechanical locker without having a rear locking differential (or any differential at all, for that matter).
Dunno if you missed it but it looks like most of the CTs to customers will only come in the DM, meaning diffs front and rear. My first one is DM in Austin.

Also, feel free to start up more locker conversation on the other thread with the same event but different video, where we discuss locker vs traction control vs TM/QM torque vectoring.
 


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2nd - "slowed down even more and stopped occasionally. "


1st - "Tried to copy what the Cybertruck did"
 

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2nd - "slowed down even more and stopped occasionally. "


1st - "Tried to copy what the Cybertruck did"
Easy peasy. You can see that the Rivian suspension is also more compliant and keeps the wheels down over the bumps. The CT had the suspension pressure too high, it looked like it was on the top stops.

Was that Rivian a QM or DM?
 

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Easy peasy. You can see that the Rivian suspension is also more compliant and keeps the wheels down over the bumps. The CT had the suspension pressure too high, it looked like it was on the top stops.

Was that Rivian a QM or DM?
I looked on his youtube channel and he has Rivian videos from a year ago so I think it is the QM.
 

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Watching all these vids really makes me miss the old K-5 Blazer :(

Sure, it would eventually get rust holes the size of your fist in the fenders, and the gas mileage was simply "feed me", but driving my uncles example 25 odd years ago was the most fun I ever had off-roading. Only ever had S-10 Blazers myself.
 

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Sweet, this is pretty much my use case assuming that adding 2-3 other large humans doesn't change things drastically.

While it would be cool if it's more capable, it'll never be a RZR, customized jeep, or sherpa.

I would love to see Whistlin Diesel compare its durability to a G wagon though...
 


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Ford F-150 lightning: Looks like they were intentionally stopping like the Rivian did to demonstrate along the lines of what the CT did.

Nov 15, 2023 post
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Looks like they were intentionally stopping like the Rivian did to demonstrate along the lines of what the CT did.

Nov 15, 2023 post
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Makes similar noise to the Cybertruck. Still has that awful fat nose blocking the forward view, tho.

-Crissa
 

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Makes similar noise to the Cybertruck. Still has that awful fat nose blocking the forward view, tho.

-Crissa
Fat nose you can't look over like the CT has as well you mean? Or are you planning on sitting on the dash?
 

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Fat nose you can't look over like the CT has as well you mean? Or are you planning on sitting on the dash?
It may have a "fat nose" but it also has a bumper mounted camera. Dash sitting not necessary. :)
 

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Makes similar noise to the Cybertruck. Still has that awful fat nose blocking the forward view, tho.

-Crissa
The very beginning of the CT video was odd in that it didn't seem like the front tires were helping. [update: upon further review it appeared the drivers-side front tire was spinning and the passenger-side front tire was just not doing anything]

It will be very interesting to get a video from the drivers head-cam in a traditional truck large_hood_short_dash compared to the CT_short_hood_large_dash.

AFAIK Tesla redesigned their board to add more video input and have a front bumper camera now (help CT and lack of USS).

I couldn't find the @cvalue13 image of that (hood+dash) comparison that shows this.

It sure does not seem that the CT hood and large sloped windshield longer dash is going to be a better view advantage like many are claiming (see this on twitter too).
Tesla Cybertruck New Cybertruck @ Hollister Hills Stairs Steps climbing video 4qV1oEb
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