Out of Spec: Rivian R1T vs. Cybertruck Highway Range Test! Don't Trust The EPA Rated Difference, Surprising Result

[JerseyMike]

You are right, not sure where I got confused there.

252 isn’t to bad…..figure you can go about 160-180 miles between chargers with an all highway roadtrip although that is at 70mph and most of us travel faster than that

the rivian efficiency is terrible given the size of the battery

Just looked at the end again, it was 252 vs 266. It was 121 kWh pulled from the truck, but that is never 100% exact. It wasn't great weather that day (I remember because I had to drive for hours that day too), so another +10% is pretty safe for both and I really think that +12-15% is closer. Honestly not a great showing for Rivian there. WAY off considering an 18 kWh larger battery.

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[countryboy]

the rivian efficiency is terrible given the size of the battery

And lower drag coefficient!

 

[DJAlan2000]

I live in the area and the weather that day was far from ideal to test. I'd expect both to be ~12-15% higher on a better day. I'd also hazard a guess that the Rivian's heatpump isn't as efficient as the CT so it might be a little more impacted by the weather.

I can't really say, but a 12-15% difference is a bit much... When we took a trip to Las Vegas (from Southern CA) on the way there we achieved 8% better than the way back due to a REALLY cold (snowing even, with temps as low as 24F). Even then I think it was mostly due to us running the heater and seat heaters than anything else.

I was actually surprised because usually we get almost exactly the same numbers going to as we do coming back (have made this trip 4 times now, 2 in winter, 2 in spring/summer) because we always stop at the same place for food and charging (at Chili's in Barstow) and take the same route.

The only real difference that trip other than the cold/snow was that we left about an hour and a half later than we normally do so we got back home a little later too...

But the numbers in the video are astonishing! And you can tell that the guy does NOT like the CT and just gushes about the R1 whenever he can... But, now we know...

Of course it was all freeway driving speeds (71mph) and no real chance to do ANY regen, so now we have a nice 'base' of 250 miles of slightly uphill (they said - would have loved to get numbers for the return trip!) AND in the cold as well. AND, if the CT had an extra 20 kWh's of battery, it could have gone an extra 41 miles more, putting it at 290 compared to the R1 getting 266...

But, it definitely shows that the CT is more efficient... by far! I really expected to see a MUCH larger difference... Perhaps 40-50 miles more... Oh well... CT-1 R1-0

 

[RVAC]

Weird dig at a repeated scientific averaged test vs an anectodical one-off.

Nothing weird about it, it's the reality of the EPA test which allows manufacturer substantial latitude in playing with correction factors.

 

[jookyone]

500k+ miles in Teslas since 2015. Have never run out of juice on a road trip (except one trip towing 5000lb car/trailer in 20 degrees; ended up 6 miles and 100 yards short) regardless of direction, altitude, or vehicle despite a 20% degradation on a Model X with 235k+ miles (90D, the worst battery). I guess this discussion could be about fuel efficiency but that's a useless discussion too. Not sure the point of this comparison (sample of one). It's almost like YouTubers repeat this FUD endlessly to make a career out of it (though I liked early Kyle for his diverse evaluation of EVs, he's been sold).

 

[mahdir35]

who's got the ai tool thing that summarizes the videos.... 90 minutes WTF

Exactly my thoughts

 

[JerseyMike]

Exactly my thoughts

This guy made a summary

 

[StainlessVoyager]

Only Question I have is how much does RT1 cost. We know CT AWD is 80K

 

[JerseyMike]

Only Question I have is how much does RT1 cost. We know CT AWD is 80K

Looks like with max range $83,900
Similar to CT actually with lower cost lower range option

 

[JerseyMike]

Looks like with max range $83,900
Similar to CT actually with lower cost lower range option

Although it isn’t quite apples to apples because additional options like premium radio, glass roof, etc….add on

 

[StainlessVoyager]

Although it isn’t quite apples to apples because additional options like premium radio, glass roof, etc….add on

Right looks like 87,900 with premium sound and power tonneau cover to match CT.

 

[DJAlan2000]

Looks like with max range $83,900
Similar to CT actually with lower cost lower range option

You forgot to add all the options...

 

[JerseyMike]

You forgot to add all the options...

Yeah, I realized it after that post, rivian is a good amount more MSRP apples to apples

 

[RRAD]

Did it discuss tires? It looks like the screenshot has the AT tires on the Cybertruck.

It's actually the Pirellis

 

[henchman24]

I can't really say, but a 12-15% difference is a bit much... When we took a trip to Las Vegas (from Southern CA) on the way there we achieved 8% better than the way back due to a REALLY cold (snowing even, with temps as low as 24F). Even then I think it was mostly due to us running the heater and seat heaters than anything else.

I was actually surprised because usually we get almost exactly the same numbers going to as we do coming back (have made this trip 4 times now, 2 in winter, 2 in spring/summer) because we always stop at the same place for food and charging (at Chili's in Barstow) and take the same route.

The only real difference that trip other than the cold/snow was that we left about an hour and a half later than we normally do so we got back home a little later too...

But the numbers in the video are astonishing! And you can tell that the guy does NOT like the CT and just gushes about the R1 whenever he can... But, now we know...

Of course it was all freeway driving speeds (71mph) and no real chance to do ANY regen, so now we have a nice 'base' of 250 miles of slightly uphill (they said - would have loved to get numbers for the return trip!) AND in the cold as well. AND, if the CT had an extra 20 kWh's of battery, it could have gone an extra 41 miles more, putting it at 290 compared to the R1 getting 266...

But, it definitely shows that the CT is more efficient... by far! I really expected to see a MUCH larger difference... Perhaps 40-50 miles more... Oh well... CT-1 R1-0

It was a pretty windy day when they tested. Constant was ~15-20, but more than that 40-45 mph gusts on top of the cold. Which isn't that unusual in this area during this time of the year. I drove around that day for hours (had to go down where they started in Wellington and then up to Laramie) and took a pretty substantial hit in my CT compared to my normal. Mine was actually more than -15% from my normal, but I dealt with a lot more elevation and was colder so it isn't apples to apples.

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