Range Extender Officially Cancelled!

[moomoo22888]

They underdelivered on the product by exceeding price expectations and not meeting the promised range. Then they canceled Auto Steer. Now they canceled the Range Extender (which is the accessory that pushed me over the line to purchase). And we still never got any of the off road accessories they discussed (rock sliders, under body protection, etc). I really wanted to use this as an overlanding vehicle. Unfortunately I live in TX, which by the time I get to the overlanding areas, such as Big Bend, I'd need to charge, and there just aren't chargers close to the places I want to explore--100 miles more; I'd be fine! While I love the truck, I'm really unhappy with their lack of support. If they want to win back customers, it's to continue to make the product awesome! Instead, it appears they want to neglect it and let it die...They won't even accept is as a trade-in if/when they release something better!

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[moomoo22888]

I think you all might be panicking for something that could potentially be good news.. That's a pretty big commitment to back out of for the amount they could have made from selling these.

Likely reason is either they didn't have enough preorders to justify production orrr... they are working on extending the range with the existing or an updated/upgraded battery pack.

If that's the case, they should have added a note to the cancellation notice.

 

[DAE1]

I've had my Cybertruck a full year and it has lost 1 mile of range, at most.

I have a 7+ year old Model 3 that came with 310 miles of range and still charges up to 306-307 miles of range after 70K+ miles.

The number it says it charges to is less and less accurate the older the vehicle. I’d try comparing it to your actual miles. For my 2016 Model S, the loss was likely much more than I present here because I’d often have to factor in a safety margin of 180% range for any trips I took. In other words, if I needed to drive 100 miles, I’d need to have at least 180 mile “range” as displayed for the battery.

 

[Amuma]

Just like I figured they will just release a bigger battery version CT.

 

[cyberville]

Just like I figured they will just release a bigger battery version CT.

If this is the path, do ya'll think us FS CB owners who want 500 will be able to SWAP?

 

[Oden's Beast]

If this is the path, do ya'll think us FS CB owners who want 500 will be able to SWAP?

I’m guessing, not a chance.

 

[donnyb]

I am super disappointed, but I didn’t preorder it. I want to see reviews first. I have been saving for purchase in the future.

 

[Sjohnson20]

I really don’t feel like stuffing a bunch of batteries in the vehicle is the answer. Then you need to haul around 200kw in batteries everywhere you go. Then you just lose efficiency during normal drives.

More chargers, pull through chargers, wireless chargers, more efficient solar for the vehicles seems better.

 

[gooshjkc]

Oh well. IMO, it was a stupid idea. If it was removable, I would rethink my position. However, it permanently part of bed by reducing the space by half and adding at least half a ton of weight. No thank you. The range is good enough for a good majority of people. Now, towing and going the distance might be the only reason for the extended battery. I think Tesla for next gen CyberTruck will add it extra batteries to the bottom where should be to start off.

 

[SCTesla]

I think Tesla for next gen CyberTruck will add it extra batteries to the bottom where should be to start off.

That's not an option without making the truck bigger, taller, or reducing the headroom.

The only way the CT gets more range is with additional energy density or to make the truck much smaller/aerodynamic (which will hurt towing).

 

[no%X#XMVk65v#cq]

Because I guarantee you the future is not 1/2 ton trucks that weigh over 4 tons and have 200+ kWh batteries.

This is 100% correct. The range on those GMs are great because the batteries are so enormous that they are definitely losing money on each one. Not sustainable.

 

[VAF84]

I just hope this means a bigger battery version. I dodged a bullet by not buying one initially as I was banking on the extender. I've driven the 320 range Lightning and now have the 440 range Sierra. They need to have a big battery option, it's a game changer. Keep one 320 version, and add the 440. Everyone is happy, and they can improve their ability to compete in the EV truck market. It doesn't even have to be much over 400, 400 will do; that leaves 300 actual miles of range for use.

I'd be in a CT instead of a GMC right now had that option been available.

 

[mongo]

I really don’t feel like stuffing a bunch of batteries in the vehicle is the answer. Then you need to haul around 200kw in batteries everywhere you go. Then you just lose efficiency during normal drives.

More chargers, pull through chargers, wireless chargers, more efficient solar for the vehicles seems better.

Oh well. IMO, it was a stupid idea. If it was removable, I would rethink my position. However, it permanently part of bed by reducing the space by half and adding at least half a ton of weight. No thank you. The range is good enough for a good majority of people. Now, towing and going the distance might be the only reason for the extended battery. I think Tesla for next gen CyberTruck will add it extra batteries to the bottom where should be to start off.

A 75kWh extender would weigh ~750 lbs and require ~15Wh/mile, that's less than a 5% efficiency hit, less than going from AWD to Beast or core to cyber wheels

A 50kWh (+100 mile) extender would be under 600 pounds.

 

[HaulingAss]

They underdelivered on the product by exceeding price expectations and not meeting the promised range.

Both the Single Motor and the Dual Motor models exceeded the announced range, the Single Motor by a huge margin, the Dual Motor by 40 miles. Only the Cyberbeast under-delivered on range.

Then they canceled Auto Steer.

When did Tesla cancel Autosteer? I don't remember that ever happening (because I don't recall them ever announcing it would have Autosteer to begin with).

Now they canceled the Range Extender (which is the accessory that pushed me over the line to purchase).

I've been predicting they would cancel the extra battery ever since they announced it was in development (due to low demand for such a niche product). Looks like I was right.

And we still never got any of the off road accessories they discussed (rock sliders, under body protection, etc). I really wanted to use this as an overlanding vehicle.

Rock sliders and underbody protection? I've off-roaded my Cybertruck quite a bit and can tell you that driver skill is far more important than rock sliders and underbody protection. I mean, it goes up to over 16" of ground clearance and the entire under-belly is flat, with no low-hanging differentials, transfer cases or a vulnerable center drive shaft to snag on rocks and logs. IMO, the Cybertruck is just about the last truck that needs underbody protection. Just use your head and have fun.

Even a rank beginner off-roader with an ounce of common sense should be able to cover some pretty gnarly terrain without damaging the underbody. Most ICE pickups are lucky to have 12" of ground clearance.

 

[HaulingAss]

The number it says it charges to is less and less accurate the older the vehicle. I’d try comparing it to your actual miles. For my 2016 Model S, the loss was likely much more than I present here because I’d often have to factor in a safety margin of 180% range for any trips I took. In other words, if I needed to drive 100 miles, I’d need to have at least 180 mile “range” as displayed for the battery.

False. The displayed miles remaining takes into account battery degradation. My 7+ year old Model 3 can still go over 300 miles in the real world.

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