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Rumor: prepare for pricing in the "mid to high 70s," or starting from about US$75,000

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Mid $70k for the DM Cybertruck is right in line with the 270 mile Rivian R1T Dual Motor pickup at $73k.

You can throw 2019 reveal pricing out the window. Elon and his team couldn't stop themselves from stuffing the Cybertruck with the latest technology. RWS, pop open doors, 48 volt architecture, frunk, front and rear Giga castings, possible steer-by-wire, no steering wheel stalks, etc.
A lot of those things actually save money though.
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-DM Lightning Lariat: $71.9k
-DM Rivian R1T: $73k
-DM Tesla Cybertruck: ???

I think the writing is on the wall, $70k +
 

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-DM Lightning Lariat: $71.9k
-DM Rivian R1T: $73k
-DM Tesla Cybertruck: ???

I think the writing is on the wall, $70k +
I respect your opinion but I fail to see what these two trucks and their prices have to do with Elon and his mission for Tesla and how the Cybertruck is meant to do to disrupt the truck market?
 

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I respect your opinion but I fail to see what these two trucks and their prices have to do with Elon and his mission for Tesla and how the Cybertruck is meant to do to disrupt the truck market?
not vouching for the comment you’re referring to, but instead pointing out what can get lost in the mix:

what release/initial period pricing is, does not dictate what medium or long term objective is

eg, a higher release/initial period price/trim does not for close that the medium/long term objective can still be accomplished with later trim/pricing
 

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not vouching for the comment you’re referring to, but instead pointing out what can get lost in the mix:

what release/initial period pricing is, does not dictate what medium or long term objective is

eg, a higher release/initial period price/trim does not for close that the medium/long term objective can still be accomplished with later trim/pricing
C as always your thought process and scope of understanding is way beyond what I am capable of but I have been blessed with decent common sense and decent rational thought.

I understand what your saying but it makes no sense to me with what I think I know.

Tesla introduced the dual motor at 49,900. What has changed to make this trim go up almost 30%.?
Battery material costs?
Changes in spec (keep in mind what may be removed when adding what may be added like rear wheel steering)
Inflation? Would think they thought that through when pricing but sure add 5%?
Drivetrain costs? Believe with no rare earth materials they should be lower cost but they most likely knew they would be using this already.
Single biggest change I can think of is finance rates which hits the consumer hard and is even more reason to keep the truck close to reveal price.
The only rational is that because of the price of the Rivian and the Lightning it shows Tesla they can get more so why not get it. IMO that is not how Tesla operates and it will not change the truck market the way Elon and company wants..

I end all this humbly saying
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C as always your thought process and scope of understanding is way beyond what I am capable of but I have been blessed with decent common sense and decent rational thought.

I understand what your saying but it makes no sense to me with what I think I know.

Tesla introduced the dual motor at 49,900. What has changed to make this trim go up almost 30%.?
Battery material costs?
Changes in spec (keep in mind what may be removed when adding what may be added like rear wheel steering)
Inflation? Would think they thought that through when pricing but sure add 5%?
Drivetrain costs? Believe with no rare earth materials they should be lower cost but they most likely knew they would be using this already.
Single biggest change I can think of is finance rates which hits the consumer hard and is even more reason to keep the truck close to reveal price.
The only rational is that because of the price of the Rivian and the Lightning it shows Tesla they can get more so why not get it. IMO that is not how Tesla operates and it will not change the truck market the way Elon and company wants..

I end all this humbly saying
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no, sorry, all the above seem reasonable takes to me; meanwhile folks who track the opposite conclusions also sometimes put forward reasonable takes

all-together, it’s why I’ve long said that when it comes to pricing I have no real position because I’m left mostly confused by all the various reasonable takes available

my comment above was accordingly not arguing for a view on pricing

was instead only pointing out that as a general matter pricing (and reasons for pricing) can and often does change over time

so if Tesla’s mission is to replace ICE truck pricing, that mission is still comparable with any initial release pricing - eg releasing at high pricing doesn’t mean their plan isn’t to also bring down pricing as production ramps

Which isn’t to suggest I take a position - only that I can see both being true
 

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A sidebar to this would be how many price changes will occur between the first units sold and each of our respective turns come up. This could be a crazy ride for a few years!
 

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no, sorry, all the above seem reasonable takes to me; meanwhile folks who track the opposite conclusions also sometimes put forward reasonable takes

all-together, it’s why I’ve long said that when it comes to pricing I have no real position because I’m left mostly confused by all the various reasonable takes available

my comment above was accordingly not arguing for a view on pricing

was instead only pointing out that as a general matter pricing (and reasons for pricing) can and often does change over time

so if Tesla’s mission is to replace ICE truck pricing, that mission is still comparable with any initial release pricing - eg releasing at high pricing doesn’t mean their plan isn’t to also bring down pricing as production ramps

Which isn’t to suggest I take a position - only that I can see both being true
There are a lot of compelling post and thoughts on what the price and spec will be. All we have to go on is history and how Tesla has operated in the past.

The first sign for me is how hard they worked at honoring the concept they showed us and how true it is to the RC we saw recently. Amazing to see that a concept vehicle so radical actually produced. So why wouldn't they work just as hard at controlling costs to follow through on pricing.

What does history tell us about M3 and MY reveal pricing vs actual price when it hit the market.? I do not know the what the % change was but I am sure you or someone else can share that but I would bet my bottom dollar it was not 30% higher or even close when looking at release spec and price vs equivalent trim/spec and price.
 

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If the Dual Motor base price is $75k I MIGHT stick with my pre-reserved all new 2024 Hybrid Tacoma TRD Pro that arrives in the spring of 2024. It all depends on the Cybertruck specs and dimensions. If the 2024 Cybertruck specs blows away the competition I am buying the Cybertruck.

My 2019 TRD Pro has been rock solid and I have been faithful to Tacoma trucks for over 20-years.

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Perhaps the question has already been asked, but if adding FSD kicks the price over 80K, I assume you lose the tax credit?
 

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Sure a lot of “thinkin” in these pricing threads.

Basically comes down to if Elon can hold his position regarding pricing with the board and wherever the bottom line ends up, and none of us know until reveal.
 

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In 2019 they showed us the Cybertruck prototype.

In 2023, almost exactly 4 years later, the production version is almost identical.

Yet the things we can't see yet, the price and performance... we doubt.
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