cvalue13
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Worth noting nothing was leaked. This is a list someone compiled using other things people have said/guessed.
Also,Tow rating might be 11,000 on dual but more power comes more ability, thus rating for tri would increase.
Nov 30 can’t come fast enough.
I think it’s humerous that we have people on here arguing about rumors on the internet vs possibilities of vehicles yet to besold,oops,releaseddangmanufactureduh ohtesteddammit, designed yet. Some people have a bad case of “I read it on the net, it must be true!”
We’re close enough to the official event, I’m not passing judgement on anything until it’s been released.
There have been zero official specs made available, whole lot of jumping to conclusions going on.
Apparently you have some insider info other than some internet post claiming to be "leaks". Try waiting for some facts in an official statement from Tesla.
If I might have two lines of conversation here?
The first is: these sorts of comments all contain some element of "I'm only interested in hearing about things straight from Tesla, officially" which I find an either odd or disingenuous take. You don't need to come to this forum to know that Tesla hasn't said anything official, and that they wont until Nov. 30.
Which sort of begs the question of what you're doing in a forum before Nov. 30, doesn't it?
Relatedly, since you've come here to a forum prior to Nov 30 knowing there's nothing official from Tesla, doubly odd to feel compelled to chime in with your prerogative, which adds zero to the conversation - not one rebuttal of a stat, not one observation of a substantive doubt, etc.
No, just a thrashing, whining, sort of exclamation of a principle "I only listen to official coms", which ironically reflects less on folks here (who don't share the principle), and more on yourselves for coming to a forum knowing damn well you wont find an official com from Tesla.
So the first thing is, what have I misunderstood? Was there some substantive contribution here, that's totally lost on me?
The second thing is: while you may have a "official coms only" principle, many of us don't. And it's for good reason. Because, if you pay close attention, long enough, some very reasonable conclusions can be made before Nov. 30.
And let's be clear here: not a single person here is talking about anything, including these stats, absent the theoretical knowledge that official coms form Tesla will be better than what we're doing here. We've moved past that annoyingly obvious, and useless, point.
But let's go ahead and give a double-click look as to how people paying close, long, attention here can arrive at reasonable conclusions (subject to qualifications, obvious to all of us).
Let's brake these down a little:
Generally Speaking: That such specs could come out about now, just weeks before delivery, is consistent with internal distribution of data to techs (training), marketing (making website changes), etc. These general conditions for veracity are amplified by the stats being attendant to obviously insider photographs. Finally, nothing in these stats is obviously wild or repugnant to reason. There's not a single stat included that gives anyone any reason to, out of hand, exclaim "that is impossible."
So, generally, conditions are ripe. What about the data specifics?
Overall length: 18.6 feet
What exactly do you disbelieve here? Musk has said the truck is sub-19'. You think it's instead 18.7 feet? 18.6? Do you have a single thing to contribute here that raises any doubt?
Overall width (no mirrors): 79.9”
Anyone paying attention expects this figure. There are no marker lights on the CT, no location market lights could exist, and for related reasons it's SOP for trucks to be a hair below 80" wide.
Overall height (medium setting): 70.5”
If anything, on its face, this is the most potentially head-turning number, given the CT is on 35s, and a Lighting is 78" tall. But we know the CT has adaptive air, no frame space underneath. And, the F150 height includes antennae.
But otherwise, what exactly is repugnant or unbelievable here?
Wheelbase: 143”
Now, for each of the items above I've failed to mention that the stats are consistent with various kinds of work done around here by various people over the past many months.
As with those, here's just one piece of such type of work, done over 7 months ago (you'll just have to trust that it was at least somewhat reasonably concocted):
This and a dozen other previously-known bits of information are consistent with a 143" wheelbase.
Curb weights- 2 motor 6,670 lbs
- 3 motor 6,890 lbs
I'll separately leave it to you to go sort out what is known about G/H class ratings, comps to similar BEV weights, etc., and then remind that Musk just told us the vehicles were near 7,000lbs
Accordingly, what's your objection here? That they may instead be 6,500lb and 6,750lbs? Does that contribute anything?
Tow rating: 11,000lbsHere's where I expect butts begin to get hurt. "Where's my 2019 truck with 14K towing" they cry!
This tow rating is 1,000lbs greater than previously noted for the Dual. Do you disbelieve Tesla could best that?
As for hopes for the 2019 "Tri Motor," you're on your own there - leave the rest of us to the available info.
What's gonna really blow your sensitive noodle is backing into what payload would be for the two trucks, given the above stats. (hint: it's not 3,500)
Bed length length: 72.8”
Musk has said it's "over 6 feet." 72.8" is over 6 feet.
"But, it used to be 6.5 feet!" you say.
If it was still 6.5', Musk wouldn't have said "over 6 feet."
Also, see again the above referenced months of measurement work that, for those paying attention, have made clear enough the bed is not longer 6.5'.
Bed Width: 51"Use your eyes and look at the bed.
Frunk volume: 7.1 cubic feet Here again, for those paying attention, this is exactly within expectations.
For just one example, this from months ago (the Lightning with 14.1ft3 volume)
Interior Measurements:For months people paying attention have said the CT interior is narrow. There's no longer a 6th seat, supporting that it's narrow.
Otherwise, the CT's leg room and headroom are all within expectations of a roughly full-sized truck that is materially shorter than an F150.
No outlets in front, two outlet in rear 120v one 220v
Given that all the above is an inordinately brief summary of observations people have collected and nit-picked for months around here, what exactly is your objection or contribution to the discussion?If it sounds like this response is frustrated, you're right. It's as though a bunch of vintage watch enthusiasts are sitting around a table continuing a discussion they've been having for a year, and someone walks up and just exclaims, "people who like watches are stupid, and time isn't real if you really think about it."
It's non-contributory, lazy, rude, and a - frankly - reeks of butthurt from someone who wishes they had a watch, but their daddy never would let them buy one.
Of course, you have every right to inject whatever you want. But point of process: it's not *us* who walked into your conversation telling *you* to stop talking.
If you're only interested in direct coms from Tesla, don't click on a thread titled "specs leak" to come announce you don't believe in leaks.
Go instead and refresh the Tesla website.
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