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I mean if the truck and USB are currently in possession of Tesla, it's not possible to immediately access the video everyone is claiming there is immediate access to.
Ah, yes, I see. You can "Live View" remotely, but cannot retrieve the stored videos.
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After only 350 miles at which the accident was said to occur, I highly doubt the sentry mode drive would've been filled up with data.

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It's a very interesting assertion to be sure, but based on anything real? Sentry mode doesn't require miles driven to be used a lot. If OP gets the drive and finds out it didn't record because of this issue, everyone will just say it's somehow his fault and he should have known that he needed to clear the flash drive manually (with no notification prompting him to do so) because the software on the truck is still broken.
 

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I suppose the OP should rush to the service center and ask them to get the USB...

When my M3 rear brakes needed to be changed at 25k miles, everyone said I was making it up too. I have a soft spot for OP because of this. I essentially use regenerative braking 100% of the time, best I came up with is I didn't use the brakes enough so they rusted due to being in the snowiest city in the country. I was called a liar while also needing to pay $1,300 for a repair people said is never needed with a Tesla.
Agree, people should give the benefit of the doubt, but unfortunately there are so many Tesla haters and competitors that put out so much FUD it is frustrating. I think most people's first response is skepticism.
 

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It's a very interesting assertion to be sure, but based on anything real? Sentry mode doesn't require miles driven to be used a lot. If OP gets the drive and finds out it didn't record because of this issue, everyone will just say it's somehow his fault and he should have known that he needed to clear the flash drive manually (with no notification prompting him to do so) because the software on the truck is still broken.
Do you have a source of this 'issue' other than rumor? First I've heard of it. Has anyone demonstrated the issue by allowing sentry to fill up a USB drive and showing us the problem on video? After any accident I'd be involved in, pulling the USB drive would be one of the first things I would do. The OP never even mentioned it.

Still it'd take a few hours of driving and stops to fill up 128GB, and with less than 350 miles I'm not quickly convinced the USB drive would've been filled up anyway.

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I suppose the OP should rush to the service center and ask them to get the USB...

When my M3 rear brakes needed to be changed at 25k miles, everyone said I was making it up too. I have a soft spot for OP because of this. I essentially use regenerative braking 100% of the time, best I came up with is I didn't use the brakes enough so they rusted due to being in the snowiest city in the country. I was called a liar while also needing to pay $1,300 for a repair people said is never needed with a Tesla.
Changing brakes is different than a CT with a dent on the left from a claimed pole on a sidewalk, which would be on the right.
 

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Do you have a source of this 'issue' other than rumor? First I've heard of it. Has anyone demonstrated the issue by allowing sentry to fill up a USB drive and showing us the problem on video? After any accident I'd be involved in, pulling the USB drive would be one of the first things I would do. The OP never even mentioned it.

Still it'd take a few hours of driving and stops to fill up 128GB, and with less than 350 miles I'm not quickly convinced the USB drive would've been filled up anyway.

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I don't know why you're being so weird about things around here. Do I have a source? yes, there are half a dozen posts on this forum about it, and zero saying the issue is fixed. Did someone take a video of them sitting in the truck with a computer, unplugging the drive, and showing on the computer that it's full and the last footage on it is older than it should be? probably not. Even if I did, you wouldn't believe it, because you'd say there shouldn't be any newer footage than that.

OP wouldn't know, because tesla doesn't give you a list of known problems at the time of delivery, so obviously wouldn't mention that before finding out about it.

https://www.cybertruckownersclub.co...w-to-overwrite-old-files-automatically.12714/

https://www.cybertruckownersclub.co...ve-to-make-sure-its-recording-properly.13277/
 

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Then if the vehicle is at Tesla Service, how would it be possible to get the dashcam footage? People are so excited to poke holes in the story that they aren't using critical thinking.
It’s a good idea after an accident to grab the usb stick from the car then at least you have your evidence, even if the data in the car disappears for whatever reason. You can then decide what to do with your evidence……
 
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I wish I knew there was an usb to grab my data, I had to contact Tesla and request the data, they said it would take 30 days. I’m still waiting for logs
 


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Whenever I read this specific thread:

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We know a Cyertruck crashed into a pole. I think if there was a shred of evidence the brakes had failed people wouldn't be as skeptical. But we have nothing, other than the person who crashed saying the regen braking wasn't acting normally and when he pressed the hydraulic brakes there was a delay in braking action.

You know what is consistent with that report? Remember, this is a Cyberbeast, able to change velocity in the blink of an eye. It's consistent with entering the corner at too high of a speed, the corner being sharper than expected, the tire pressure being below 50 psi cold, ad the anti-lock braking not letting the brakes apply because the speed and sharpness of the turn were already overwhelming the available traction in the intersection.

Intersections are already low traction surfaces with oil and coolant contamination common. Entering a corner like that at 60 mph is going to overwhelm the available traction and ABS systems are programmed to not allow brake application if regen has already been limited due to lack of traction. Remember, you can corner hard, you can brake hard, but you cannot do both at the same time. The likely error here was rapidly building too much speed, or maintaining too high of a speed, into the corner entry.

In other words, a simple over-estimation of the available traction and an under-estimation of how fast he was going (probably due to the quickness with which Cyberbeast can add speed with just a short application of throttle). Without more information, this is the most likely scenario that explains all available information (and takes the OP's story at face value). I say this because the OP was strangely silent on a critical fact, the speed of the vehicle at the entry to the turn. My impression is that the brakes were not applied until the turn entry, the slickest part of the intersection, especially if the entry into the left turn lane was late.

I have a Model 3 Performance with a 0-60 of just over three seconds and I know a short stab of the accelerator adds a lot of speed pronto. A quick one-second stab of the throttle, when already going 35 or 40 mph, can get you into trouble really quickly if you don't understand this. And the Cyberbeast adds speed even more quickly than the Model 3 Performance.
 

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I wish I knew there was an usb to grab my data, I had to contact Tesla and request the data, they said it would take 30 days. I’m still waiting for logs
Thought everyone was familiar with the USB. Anyway very sorry this happened to you and your Cybertruck. Is there any possibility that you might have initially hit the wrong pedal? Asking because it's happened to quite a few people in many different vehicles, thought they were hitting the brake in a panic situation and actually hit the accelerator. The logs will be able to determine this. Again, sorry to see that this happened.
 

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I wish I knew there was an usb to grab my data, I had to contact Tesla and request the data, they said it would take 30 days. I’m still waiting for logs
The articles inside the truck are yours, things in the console and glovebox. Let the service center know you need some of your property out of the vehicle and grab the USB drive, it will have your dashcam footage which will quiet all the conspiracy theorists and is important for you to have control of a copy.
 

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I wish I knew there was an usb to grab my data, I had to contact Tesla and request the data, they said it would take 30 days. I’m still waiting for logs
The USB just records the 4 camera video, not the log data you requested from Tesla. From what I've read elsewhere, I'll be surprised if Tesla provides you with the log data, unless it points the fault at you rather than the truck.
 

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Congratulations! You've written a literary masterpiece worthy of its own Dewey Decimal code. Fourteen pages? In this age of TL;DR, that's practically a novel.

By the power vested in me by the internet, I hereby declare this thread a resounding success. All hail the OP, the Hemingway of online discourse!
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