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This. Is the only instance I would be willing to give the manufacturer a cost savings on my dime for them to save 100% on delivery costs.

Give me a tour of the factory and factory pickup of my vehicle and I'm willing to let you save a few grand delivering it to me, and even incur a few hundred bucks out of pocket for the flight there and the electricity driving it home.

Difference being the experiences are worth the value for me. Having them deliver it to my door with added unnecessary mileage is not a value in my eyes.

And they can't complain about the cost of setting up infrastructure and labor to deal with factory tours and factory pickup because those costs are easily covered by the savings they gain from not transporting those vehicles cross country. You know they would have a wait months long just for this option.

100 people a day is 2-4 tour guides and probably 5 additional vehicle check out employees processing every one at the end of the tour. Even at $1k average delivery savings, that is 100k a day in savings. Labor and infrastructure costs are drastically less for those employees per day. And you'd gain even happier customers while saving money and having them incur their own costs in receipt of their vehicles.
Exactly. Tell me what day to show up and I'm there. However, I think they'd need at least 10 people for 100 customers. Imagine a tour taking an hour and then paperwork another 30 minutes to an hour. 2hrs per group and you can only really run 4 groups per day. heaven forbid someone show up late!

The paperwork, as it were, for the MY took me like 30 seconds to finish and basically was just my signature in 2 places. Then, I put the paperwork in the folder and handed it to the guy. Easy peasy
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Exactly. Tell me what day to show up and I'm there. However, I think they'd need at least 10 people for 100 customers. Imagine a tour taking an hour and then paperwork another 30 minutes to an hour. 2hrs per group and you can only really run 4 groups per day. heaven forbid someone show up late!
I was assuming the 4 tour guides would also act as paperwork processing after tour in addition to the 5 or so dedicated solely to that. So I was suggesting about 9 total. But yea, not much overhead for plenty of cost savings for them and customer loyalty.
 

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This. Is the only instance I would be willing to give the manufacturer a cost savings on my dime for them to save 100% on delivery costs.

Give me a tour of the factory and factory pickup of my vehicle and I'm willing to let you save a few grand delivering it to me, and even incur a few hundred bucks out of pocket for the flight there and the electricity driving it home.

Difference being the experiences are worth the value for me. Having them deliver it to my door with added unnecessary mileage is not a value in my eyes.

And they can't complain about the cost of setting up infrastructure and labor to deal with factory tours and factory pickup because those costs are easily covered by the savings they gain from not transporting those vehicles cross country. You know they would have a wait months long just for this option.

100 people a day is 2-4 tour guides and probably 5 additional vehicle check out employees processing every one at the end of the tour. Even at $1k average delivery savings, that is 100k a day in savings. Labor and infrastructure costs are drastically less for those employees per day. And you'd gain even happier customers while saving money and having them incur their own costs in receipt of their vehicles.
I love it. We started a email campaign to the Austin City Tourism folks to lobby for this. This would be a huge win for Austin.

The only issue is that Tesla averages freight and it is charged in addition to the sales price.




Texas politics are in favor of the dealerships for now.
I was assuming the 4 tour guides would also act as paperwork processing after tour in addition to the 5 or so dedicated solely to that. So I was suggesting about 9 total. But yea, not much overhead for plenty of cost savings for them and customer loyalty.
A bunch of kiosks with buyers doing most of the work. Maybe just tablets. 1-2 people bouncing around helping people if they get stuck. 1-2 people doing the tours. If you are late, no tour. Tours are less than an hour. You could process 100s per day easy.
 

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I love it. We started a email campaign to the Austin City Tourism folks to lobby for this. This would be a huge win for Austin.

The only issue is that Tesla averages freight and it is charged in addition to the sales price.




Texas politics are in favor of the dealerships for now.

A bunch of kiosks with buyers doing most of the work. Maybe just tablets. 1-2 people bouncing around helping people if they get stuck. 1-2 people doing the tours. If you are late, no tour. Tours are less than an hour. You could process 100s per day easy.
You started an email campaign already for this?
 

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Tesla Cybertruck Cybertruck Production Advances to TOOLING Phase! 385784D8-323D-4A9E-AFAA-E432F146AFBE


I took this photo from the “Cyber-berm” of the north parking lot during Giga Rodeo. The stations were for the first Model Y deliveries. So they’ve definitely done factory-delivery before, but only for events.

I’ll be happy to collect my CT this way:love:
 


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We don't have any positive evidence that the Austin or Berlin Ys with 2170 are using a pack as structural as the 4680 pack.

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BINGO!

Just coincidentally this is from a GF Texas drone shot today.

You can clearly see the different body styles. In the middle left is a body set up for a structural battery. The bodies on the right have a structural floor for non-structural packs.

So I guess my assumption was wrong. The 2170 packs are not structural at all.

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BINGO!

Just coincidentally this is from a GF Texas drone shot today.

You can clearly see the different body styles. In the middle left is a body set up for a structural battery. The bodies on the right have a structural floor for non-structural packs.

So I guess my assumption was wrong. The 2170 packs are not structural at all.

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Do you think both non structural bodies and packs are shipped in? I think they make the non structural bodies are made there in Austin but are having the packs shipped in from somewhere else.
 

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Do you think both non structural bodies and packs are shipped in? I think they make the non structural bodies are made there in Austin but are having the packs shipped in from somewhere else.
I suspect they make all of the battery packs in Nevada or Fremont (2170 and 4680 respectively) and ship them to Texas. There is drone footage that shows a warehouse full of completed, ready to go battery packs on the second floor in Austin.

The bodies are made here. Otherwise they would just assemble the whole shebang in Fremont.
 

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BINGO!

Just coincidentally this is from a GF Texas drone shot today.

You can clearly see the different body styles. In the middle left is a body set up for a structural battery. The bodies on the right have a structural floor for non-structural packs.

So I guess my assumption was wrong. The 2170 packs are not structural at all.

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Nice detective work Sherlock!
 


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Nice detective work Sherlock!
I was going to say there was no detective work at all because it literally popped up in my Twitter feed today from Joe T’s drone footage. But being a detective is as much about having reliable sources of information and connecting the dots as it is pure research. So yeah, it was detective work. ;)?
 

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This illustrates how much transportation and logistics cost as a percent of a vehicle. Rail is obviously still cheaper or Tesla would not be pursuing it. Just think they have the same operation on the other end of the line.

It is a shame they have to put the vehicles on a car hauler for 20 miles, but better that shipping 2200 miles to Maine or Washington by truck. Now if they could receive parts at the same yard and somehow move it with car haulers they would be in business.

Maybe drive straight off the car hauler onto the train next time. That is pretty slick how they load the cars. Potentially a long walk back to the next car though.

There is lot of room for improvement in Logistics and transportation. As others have commented I could see the Model 2 making all these movements without a human pilot. That might be why they have 4 train loading docks. Tesla is planning to go really big.

Yep, movement through the tunnel at Giga, straight onto a train.
 
 








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