Cybertruck Production Advances to TOOLING Phase!

[Qball]

Great news indeed, the wait has been beyond awful.

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[Mini2nut]

Realistically it looks like 2024 for volume production.

 

[GnarlyDudeLive]

under 100 miles on a new vehicle is to be expected from testing it and moving it around between factory and dealer lot. 250-500 miles is no longer new, but dealer used with a discount price attached to it. anything over 500 is straight up used with used pricing.

True, but think of it this way: A used Tesla can sell for more than new Tesla. So really this would be a great deal. Almost like a perk.

 

[Cyberman]

I wouldn't look at that so closely. Lots of rumors suggesting they're stock piling 4680s, i don't know about that really but, the reality - if they can achieve this semi on 2170s then it doesn't really matter! I almost think it's a sandbag.

You REALLY don't wanna mess up the semi. Commercial people have lawyers, lot easier to swap out a Model Y for a customer if there's a problem than have Pepsi stuck on the side of the road. Right?

It's just Pepsi. It's not like it's Coke, so relax.

 

[greggertruck]

It's just Pepsi. It's not like it's Coke, so relax.

That’s the best part. I call it Pespi. It’s my drank. Love that they’re the ones rocking Tesla semis first!

 

[Ogre]

True, but think of it this way: A used Tesla can sell for more than new Tesla. So really this would be a great deal. Almost like a perk.

As wait List times came down, used prices do too. Down quite a bit in the last few weeks.

 

[Raebrek]

My lunch, dinners are great Mexican food ( tacos, burritos, torta, etc) in paper to go package or Chinese food in folded paper take-out carton.

You are very lucky to have house, solid bowls, metal pots, and wife too.

My Cybertruck will have to be delivered ready to go just like my food

If the Cybertruck delivered itself would be great.

I bet I can improve your dream. What if your cyber truck delivered itself AND brought your favorite lunch at the same time?

 

[Tinker71]

It is not necessary to have an on-site railyard. Cars are being shipped out of GT via trailer to train cars about 20 miles away.

This illustrates how much transportation and logistics cost as a percent of a vehicle. Rail is obviously still cheaper or Tesla would not be pursuing it. Just think they have the same operation on the other end of the line.

It is a shame they have to put the vehicles on a car hauler for 20 miles, but better that shipping 2200 miles to Maine or Washington by truck. Now if they could receive parts at the same yard and somehow move it with car haulers they would be in business.

Maybe drive straight off the car hauler onto the train next time. That is pretty slick how they load the cars. Potentially a long walk back to the next car though.

There is lot of room for improvement in Logistics and transportation. As others have commented I could see the Model 2 making all these movements without a human pilot. That might be why they have 4 train loading docks. Tesla is planning to go really big.

 

[Raebrek]

If my brand new vehicle I just purchased shows up with 1400 miles on it from driving itself from the factory to my house, I would be pissed and expect a discount on purchasing a used vehicle.

The used Tesla’s ready to drive tend to cost more than the new ones we order and wait to arrive.

 

[Throwcomputer]

The used Tesla’s ready to drive tend to cost more than the new ones we order and wait to arrive.

Your prerogative to reduce the life of your vehicle prior to receipt of said vehicle for some artificially inflated used market prices, which 99% of people wouldn't be selling their just purchased vehicle anytime soon afterwards.

Everyone on here so willing to hand over their customer rights for some mythical benefits.

Next thing you now.. people on here would be begging the manufacturer to let them not actually own their own vehicles, but rent them like taxis and have to sit around waiting for them to show up!

Personally, I'd rather put those miles on myself instead of letting the manufacturer reduce my new vehicles lifespan and true value... and for that matter, own my own vehicle to use whenever I want, however I want, at the moment I want independent of any other persons/corporations/softwares rules, timelines and momentary price fluctuations. I'll lock my price in at moment of purchase, so that any future usage is cheaper than inflation and price gouging at the point of usage (where I can control.. vehicle price, aside from the out of my control electricity price).

" The Dhanis, they're a simple people. They breed a sad combination of traits that make them particularly vulnerable to manipulation. On a practical level, they have a great difficulty holding multiple ideas simultaneously. We've found the best way to steer them as we'd like is to offer alternatives. You put a number of options on the table, and they're so wrapped up in choosing, they fail to notice you've given them nothing they thought they wanted at the start. "

 

[TyPope]

Yes, whole 1,400 miles would be a bit much.

Well, then in year 2025+ when doing checkout from Tesla shopping cart be sure to check the box for "Cybertruck robo delivery option, Buy train rail car vehicle carrier ticket"

For some customer delivery locations it might be cheaper for Cybertruck to robo drive itself the last 250 miles to customer home/business than pay truck based vehicle hauler to make 500 mile round trip for 1 vehicle.

Yeah. I have a friend whose Maverick has been in Kansas City for a bit over 3 weeks already. He still doesn't have a delivery date. We are near Omaha, NE which is about an hour and a half from Kansas City. He has to wait for the thing to make it to the local dealer and then prepped. I'd bet he'd rather have the 140 miles on the odo than be without his truck for a month.

 

[CyberGus]

Your prerogative to reduce the life of your vehicle prior to receipt of said vehicle for some artificially inflated used market prices, which 99% of people wouldn't be selling their just purchased vehicle anytime soon afterwards.

Everyone on here so willing to hand over their customer rights for some mythical benefits.

Next thing you now.. people on here would be begging the manufacturer to let them not actually own their own vehicles, but rent them like taxis and have to sit around waiting for them to show up!

Personally, I'd rather put those miles on myself instead of letting the manufacturer reduce my new vehicles lifespan and true value... and for that matter, own my own vehicle to use whenever I want, however I want, at the moment I want independent of any other persons/corporations/softwares rules, timelines and momentary price fluctuations. I'll lock my price in at moment of purchase, so that any future usage is cheaper than inflation and price gouging at the point of usage (where I can control.. vehicle price, aside from the out of my control electricity price).

" The Dhanis, they're a simple people. They breed a sad combination of traits that make them particularly vulnerable to manipulation. On a practical level, they have a great difficulty holding multiple ideas simultaneously. We've found the best way to steer them as we'd like is to offer alternatives. You put a number of options on the table, and they're so wrapped up in choosing, they fail to notice you've given them nothing they thought they wanted at the start. "

Cars are not bubble-wrapped after manufacture. All will have some miles when delivered.

Even if it's 1000 miles, the IRS rate is about $0.60/mile which is less than 1% of the car's value. However, I would be reluctant to take delivery of a car with that many excess miles on it without some consideration.

Still, it's not unusual for Teslas to be delivered with 100 or more of miles already.

https://carroar.com/how-many-miles-on-a-new-car-before-it-is-considered-used/

 

[JBee]

My lunch, dinners are great Mexican food ( tacos, burritos, torta, etc) in paper to go package or Chinese food in folded paper take-out carton.

You are very lucky to have house, solid bowls, metal pots, and wife too.

My Cybertruck will have to be delivered ready to go just like my food

If the Cybertruck delivered itself would be great.

Huh at least you can order in Mexican and Chinese food. Our nearest stores are 100miles away. If I don't cook it we don't eat... so...

But no loss, we go to the big smoke once a month and only have takeout then for the weekend. By the end we are looking forward to home cooked.

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But CT deliveries are a different matter.

I'm a bit surprised of all the double handling of finished cars, so many moving parts and people, not really streamlined at all. I'm still wondering how much this costs and what the alternatives are, because paying a few grand for delivery seems like a large sunk cost somehow. Maybe offer a factory pickup option where owners can fly in and drive home?

 

[Throwcomputer]

Huh at least you can order in Mexican and Chinese food. Our nearest stores are 100miles away. If I don't cook it we don't eat... so...

But no loss, we go to the big smoke once a month and only have takeout then for the weekend. By the end we are looking forward to home cooked.

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But CT deliveries are a different matter.

I'm a bit surprised of all the double handling of finished cars, so many moving parts and people, not really streamlined at all. I'm still wondering how much this costs and what the alternatives are, because paying a few grand for delivery seems like a large sunk cost somehow. Maybe offer a factory pickup option where owners can fly in and drive home?

This. Is the only instance I would be willing to give the manufacturer a cost savings on my dime for them to save 100% on delivery costs.

Give me a tour of the factory and factory pickup of my vehicle and I'm willing to let you save a few grand delivering it to me, and even incur a few hundred bucks out of pocket for the flight there and the electricity driving it home.

Difference being the experiences are worth the value for me. Having them deliver it to my door with added unnecessary mileage is not a value in my eyes.

And they can't complain about the cost of setting up infrastructure and labor to deal with factory tours and factory pickup because those costs are easily covered by the savings they gain from not transporting those vehicles cross country. You know they would have a wait months long just for this option.

100 people a day is 2-4 tour guides and probably 5 additional vehicle check out employees processing every one at the end of the tour. Even at $1k average delivery savings, that is 100k a day in savings. Labor and infrastructure costs are drastically less for those employees per day. And you'd gain even happier customers while saving money and having them incur their own costs in receipt of their vehicles.

 

[JBee]

This. Is the only instance I would be willing to give the manufacturer a cost savings on my dime for them to save 100% on delivery costs.

Give me a tour of the factory and factory pickup of my vehicle and I'm willing to let you save a few grand delivering it to me, and even incur a few hundred bucks out of pocket for the flight there and the electricity driving it home.

Difference being the experiences are worth the value for me. Having them deliver it to my door with added unnecessary mileage is not a value in my eyes.

And they can't complain about the cost of setting up infrastructure and labor to deal with factory tours and factory pickup because those costs are easily covered by the savings they gain from not transporting those vehicles cross country. You know they would have a wait months long just for this option.

100 people a day is 2-4 tour guides and probably 5 additional vehicle check out employees processing every one at the end of the tour. Even at $1k average delivery savings, that is 100k a day in savings. Labor and infrastructure costs are drastically less for those employees per day. And you'd gain even happier customers while saving money and having them incur their own costs in receipt of their vehicles.

Well I know VW do this in Germany.

It might not be something for everyone to do, but an option would be nice.

Let's say 1000 vehicles a day, that's 365,000 a year, groups of 20 for three hours each to do the tour and give people the keys in the lot next to the car. You end up with 3 tours a day, maybe a night one too. Thats just 20 tour guides to handle deliveries for the factory.

The factory tour could be automated, or partially at least, and in larger groups. You could schedule it so you see your actual car being built.

Then make it more personal by doing 120 staff, but they can spend an hour with each customer.

Pickup time is fixed otherwise fees apply for handling. Uber offers CT pickup to deliver to the hotel your staying at (or Tesla makes a buck with a Supercharger Hotel).

Charter flights and buses to Austin.

But...can we take delivery of Tesla's in Texas like that? You know the whole dealer rubbish?

Maybe we need to make a "Cybertruck Delivery Hotel" instead and get Tesla to deliver there directly instead of the rail road yard. Wouldn't be a bad business...who's keen?

You see savings, I see makings! ?

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