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Where’s the HVAC and venting? Does it vent out from this gap strip that runs the length of the dash?
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Yes, it works like the Model Y controls: you can adjust the height and width of the vents from the screen. It's actually really cool and effective and the aesthetic is pleasing to most.
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Wanting a physical way to switch direction is a ‘very specific request’? Unlike every other car that has ever existed? Even the Model 3?

The key fob is quite a different matter as there are benefits to not carrying an extra key around, and just walking to the car and driving off (though 1/10 that doesn’t work). Plus you can buy the fob separately.

So what is the benefit to me of removing a physical control?
It's fine you don't want change with gear selectors.

It's easier to use, but if it's not for you, don't buy it.

All Teslas are moving to this, but there are plenty of other options for those like yourself.
 

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Yes you always need to know. It’s just particularly an issue in towing as that’s a scenario when you will be frequently moving back and forth. Having to guess what some AI is imagining you want to do then is just asking for trouble. And doing it for every movement. When towing you will be looking backwards, and side mirrors. You want to be able to easily switch direction without having to constantly look back at the screen.
I’m empathetic to this point RE physical controls while towing - it’s definitely not a “fake objection”

When maneuvering a trailer, with eyes/attention focused behind the vehicle, it’s both comforting and useful to have a hand on a physical gear lever/dial/stalk. Because a person can operate a physical lever - eg change from R to D - by feel, without having to look at it. I could look in my driver’s side rearview mirror, head turned left, and shimmy a trailer forward-reverse-forward-reverse-park without ever needing to look at my right hand to confirm if I’m changing correct gears.

Touchscreens do not allow that type of no-look haptic control and comfort.

The idea of losing that also make me and I’m sure a lot of others a little skeptical. Not a fake objection.

That said, there may be reason to think things will be so different with the CT visibility and technology, that it’s prob worth tabling judgment until it’s out and it’s capabilities explained.

For example, I have a feeling there will be so little direct visibility out the back of the CT, that cameras and video on the center screen could be location of all attention when eg shimmying a trailer. At least the virtual buttons will be right there overlaying the rearview video you’re watching.

Ultimately, when it comes to anticipating UI issues, these sorts of software UI solutions added to the CT design may be either solution or exacerbation. And when it comes to towing specifically, it’ll be the first time Tesla is offering a fulsome technology/software solution.

And reasonable people may still differ
 

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Still think this photo is a BETA build of the truck not the full way the interior is gona look like.
Also hope we can still get the yoke as a option. Want the full CT experience. :)
 

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Still think this photo is a BETA build of the truck not the full way the interior is gona look like.
Also hope we can still get the yoke as a option. Want the full CT experience. :)
 


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Still think this photo is a BETA build of the truck not the full way the interior is gona look like.
Also hope we can still get the yoke as a option. Want the full CT experience. :)
 

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What about a glove compartment? Hopefuly there is one someware in the huge dash. Also, it's probably a done deal but I would really like a driver screen. ( ala mx/m6)
 

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I get what youre getting at, but it's still a shock to see in it's implementation.

Look, the truck exterior is polarizing. Some people really hate it. I particularly really love it. But I didn't really contemplate what the interior would be like. Frankly, I thought the driver would be pushed way closer to the rake of the windshield, but the driver is really far back. And I thought as a consequence the dash would be way closer in. I clearly imagined that wrong and perhaps what I imagined was never realistic to begin with.
Understandable, however I hope you'll convene that it's a bit odd to see shocked and surprised reactions when photos and videos of the interior have been available since the 2019 reveal. What we are seeing in these latest photos is not materially different.

But having seen this, it, on first blush, looks bad. And I do not just mean from an aesthetic standpoint, but from usability stand point. First, it's really wasted space, because anything you put there will likely crate huge distracting reflections.
From an aesthetic standpoint I don't see how anyone can claim it looks bad, looking at a hood isn't any better. From a usability perspective if you put items up against the windshield of any vehicle you'll get reflections, this is no different. Just because there now is a large space that would have otherwise been open air does not mean you need to fill it with crap.

One could argue a long hood is also wasted space, which is fair enough, but with a regular hood, your A pillars are far back where they do not interfere with visibility as much. These A pillars seem to really be blocking a lot of visibility in the name of this aesthetic.
A-pillars will limit visibility to the sides but there's not much that can be done about it, it's intrinsic to the exterior geometry of the vehicle. There's no Cybertruck as we know it otherwise. Change that and we'd have people complaining that it looks nothing like was originally shown, rightly so.

Further, the materials are garbage. That center console plastic looks like poop. It's like they pulled it out of a junk yard of an old broken GM truck from the 90s. There is no design flair to it at all. And I do love a minimalist aesthetic, but that doesnt mean the design materials get to be junk. A shed is also minimalist, but doesnt mean it's a fantastic architectural design liek some ultra modern high end minimalist sky scraper or home.
That's not the case. One thing is to say that you don't like the design, another is to say the quality of it is garbage. What we can glean from the photos is that the interior is full of alcantara (arguably too much of it), which is a high end automotive material. The console appears to be either wrapped in the same material as the armrest/seats or is made out of soft touch plastic, either way it's not the hard plastic trim you see a lot of other OEM's use.
 

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It's fine you don't want change with gear selectors.

It's easier to use, but if it's not for you, don't buy it.

All Teslas are moving to this, but there are plenty of other options for those like yourself.
Why would not having a physical gear selector be ‘easier to use’?

Actually there aren’t that many options to a Cybertruck, especially in Europe (if it even appears here) and for the price. But no doubt they will come.
 

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That makes no sense to say when you're towing you need to know what gear you're in. No matter what you are doing, you need to know whether you're in Forward, Reverse or Park. You don't have to be towing to need to know that. But in either case, the gear is clearly dispayed if you're confused which one you're in. I don't understand your objection to looking at the screen to see what gear you're in. It seems like a fake objection.
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Question: What do we know about Tesla's previous pre-production models at this stage in development? With the previous launches, as they are testing betas and just beginning to produce the first few release candidates- do all the test mules (road tripping, harsh environment, off-roading, fording (floating?) ) have ALL the final release components in them?

My question relates to the console we are debating. If they are churning out trucks that will be going out in the field for testing, do all of them have to have "pencils down" 100% complete interiors? We know that the form factor is done. This IS the exterior design. The size, dash, A-pillars, etc are what they are. But does that *HAVE TO BE* the final interior?

This wasn't a truck that they let everyone look into and sit in. Unlike many previous appearances, everyone at the shareholder event was kept at a significant distance which prohibited looking inside. If they pulled a truck off the line and said, "This one looks really clean- let's show it at the public event," could it have an incomplete interior if it wasn't meant to be seen? (We don't even *know* if this one has back seats in it)!

Maybe this is ignorant, wishful thinking, but I feel it's possible that they could have grabbed some old prototype Model S consoles from 2011 to fill the space, while the seat department works on tooling for a more robust and appealing and functional cyber console.
 

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I hate to be the first one to say it, but...

what is with those pants? And those shoes, geeez
That is standard issue "hipster" attire. :)
 

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Elon is really banking on FSD being completed soon and the lack of stalks/controls that aren't on the steering wheel makes a lot of sense if the vehicle is driving itself. Musk has stated that he wants the vehicles to "sense" which direction you want to go (with the ability to override it on the screen). I personally would still prefer a gear stalk, just to be 100% certain.

I also much prefer a stalk to control the wipers, the Model Y only has the controls through the screen and it isn't really safe messing with the screen when you need to adjust the wipers. What's worse: if you activate AP on the Y, the wiper controls are greyed out and are controlled by the computer (which still occasionally decides that it is OK to run the wipers on a clear day, even when there are no bugs/blockages in front of the camera).

I really hope that they put forward facing radar as part of the HW4 suite on the CT, I have a '15 S85D with it and it is much better behaved than our Model Y ('22) that is only Vision based. I know they are still "calibrating" Vision, but it is freaking out way more than the MobileEye radar based AP1 on the S ever did. IF Tesla can completely eliminate the random freak-outs that the Vision based system experiences, I could do without radar on the CT.

With all of that said though, I am not going to balk at any of the these design changes. I am still holding out some hope that Elon will honor the FSD price at the time of the reservation. I am much more likely to pay that price than the current (and increasing) price for FSD. If they don't honor it, I will probably only subscribe to it when we take long trips.
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