Rumor: $98900 price for tri-motor Cybertruck??

[TyPope]

Or if ICE evolves and passes up EV’s on emissions (thank you heavy emissions from coal and gas plants and a lack of nuclear investment).

Cool. Where does gas come from? Does it take any energy to get it? Refine it?
To extract one gallon of gasoline (or equivalent distillate), it takes 9.66 kWh (maybe not all in the form of electricity*)

To refine that gallon: 2.73 kWh additional energy
Total: 12.39 kWh per gallon.

We can drive our Model Y about 36 miles for 12 kWh of electricity. There are ICE vehicles that get 36 miles per gallon, of course.

60% of electricity is, indeed, currently being produced by using fossil fuels. But, that doesn't have to always be the case. It would put the US in a better position to bargain if we got more electricity from alternate sources and did not have to rely on other States to ship oil to refine.

Personally, I think it's easier to monitor the byproduct and emissions from generation sites than to try to monitor Bob and his Nova over there burning through a quart of oil every 100 miles and making everything smell like sh!t. (Was stuck in traffic behind one... it stuck with me even all these years later)

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[samueldion1]

Seems pretty unlikely. Ive never been a super early Tesla getter. But with my cars, I got an email when it was time to proceed. Only time a rep called me was if the configuration I wanted wasn't available yet but something similar was in the shop.

And what does complete my purchase mean? With my cars we brought a check to the pickup.

My experience is that Tesla doesn't accept checks. Everything is done electronically. How can you just "bring in a check to the pickup?"

 

[Gurule92]

My experience is that Tesla doesn't accept checks. Everything is done electronically. How can you just "bring in a check to the pickup?"

I'm like 69% sure that's what happened the first time.

Second time financing was done through them so I didn't bring anything .

 

[Deleted member 20282]

Cool. Where does gas come from? Does it take any energy to get it? Refine it?
To extract one gallon of gasoline (or equivalent distillate), it takes 9.66 kWh (maybe not all in the form of electricity*)

To refine that gallon: 2.73 kWh additional energy
Total: 12.39 kWh per gallon.

We can drive our Model Y about 36 miles for 12 kWh of electricity. There are ICE vehicles that get 36 miles per gallon, of course.

60% of electricity is, indeed, currently being produced by using fossil fuels. But, that doesn't have to always be the case. It would put the US in a better position to bargain if we got more electricity from alternate sources and did not have to rely on other States to ship oil to refine.

Personally, I think it's easier to monitor the byproduct and emissions from generation sites than to try to monitor Bob and his Nova over there burning through a quart of oil every 100 miles and making everything smell like sh!t. (Was stuck in traffic behind one... it stuck with me even all these years later)

The sadder and more interesting stat is to look at the regional grids as it paints a really interesting mid-west story. Here in Michigan’s grid, we’re over 80% with coal + gas. The value add of EV is heavily diminished here with virtually no renewables. 0.8% solar. Contrast to the PNW (lived in Seattle for 14 years) which alone has 40%+ hydro.

We have a ton of work to do in this space. Just having the EV’s is *not* enough. We can’t be running 80% coal and gas. I really am hopeful that we have a change of opinion on Nuclear as I believe with modern engineering and software, we can build a hell of a lot more reliable power plant than we did before. There’s a city near me, Ann Arbor, that is taking matters into their own hands and planning for a community and city owned grid.

IMO, we have precedent that all these “for profit” energy companies cut corners. Look at PG&E with forest fires. Look at Texas. A solution is staring us in the face. Let the DOE operate nuclear plants without a need for profit so there’s zero incentive to cut corners. Nuclear has the capacity we need to bolster the bridge with minimal emissions in contrast to gas and a whole lot better than coal. Here in Michigan, the bulk of our power comes from our gas company (Consumers Energy), which is also where we get our gas from which also operates gas plants and shut down their nuclear plants because they didn’t make a profit.

 

[Deleted member 20282]

Interesting web site if no one has seen: https://www.epa.gov/egrid/power-profiler#/

Plug in your zip and it tells you what your homes power make up is.

 

[CHC]

My experience is that Tesla doesn't accept checks. Everything is done electronically. How can you just "bring in a check to the pickup?"

Not true, paid by cashier's check for my X

 

[samueldion1]

rt $79,900(based on VIN 7G2CHEEARAxxxx on the invoice, no mileage info). Options like vault ramp and mid gate will be available. NOTE: VIN on the invoice starts with 7G2, not 72G.

Not true, paid by cashier's check for my X

Ohhh cashier's check. Make no sense, because people have been known to make fake cashier's checks. I just gave them my bank account number as a payment method like they asked.

 

[teslamaniac]

If the Tri only has 320 miles, vs 500 (or at least well into 400), I'll burn all my Tesla stock and drive my Y over a cliff. That's how pissed I'll be. Don't let me down, Tesla!

Please remember that Tesla did not promise a mere "500 (or at least well into 400)" miles. They promised "500+" miles. That means at the very least 500 miles, but perhaps more. They were strongly implying something more along the lines of 510 or 520 miles.
If they are going to make these kinds of promises, they need to be held to them.

 

[CyberGus]

Please remember that Tesla did not promise a mere "500 (or at least well into 400)" miles. They promised "500+" miles. That means at the very least 500 miles, but perhaps more. They were strongly implying something more along the lines of 510 or 520 miles.
If they are going to make these kinds of promises, they need to be held to them.

At this very moment I am writing a strongly-worded letter to the "Bureau of Promises"

 

[Cyber Johnson]

Now did he get a discount on the auto pilot? When orders opened up, it was $5000 for the first 3days then it turn to $8000. Am I right?

 

[lowtek]

My experience is that Tesla doesn't accept checks. Everything is done electronically. How can you just "bring in a check to the pickup?"

I've done this a bunch of times, they definitely take checks. No way I would pay in full before seeing the vehicle.

 

[samueldion1]

I've done this a bunch of times, they definitely take checks. No way I would pay in full before seeing the vehicle.

Yep me too, Except I did not need to bring a check.

 

[CyberGus]

Now did he get a discount on the auto pilot? When orders opened up, it was $5000 for the first 3days then it turn to $8000. Am I right?

The price for Full Self Driving (FSD) was $7000 at launch. It was raised to $8000 the following July and has been raised several more times since then.

Oddly, in September the price dropped from $15,000 to $12,000.

 

[chalupacabre]

If the Tri only has 320 miles, vs 500 (or at least well into 400), I'll burn all my Tesla stock and drive my Y over a cliff. That's how pissed I'll be. Don't let me down, Tesla!

You'd probably survive the cliff Thang

 

[chalupacabre]

My price expectation is not more than 20% over the original offer.

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