New Cybertruck video clip (from Cyber Rodeo 2022). Shows tail lights & reverse lights

[Jhodgesatmb]

That would be nice, let’s hope you are right.

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[Jhodgesatmb]

(e) Backup lamps must be mounted on the rear so that the optical center of at least one lamp is visible from any eye point elevation from at least 1828 mm (6 ft) to 610 mm (2 ft) above the horizontal plane on which the vehicle is standing; and from any position in the area, rearward of a vertical plane perpendicular to the longitudinal axis of the vehicle, 914 mm (3 ft) to the rear of the vehicle and extending 914 mm (3 ft) beyond each side of the vehicle.

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CFR-2004-title49-vol5/xml/CFR-2004-title49-vol5-sec571-108.xml

Doesn't seem to pass this requirement... Specifically the last one seems at least from that one clip they might be pushing the boundaries of visibility requirements by just barely meeting that, if at all.

I'm only commenting on what was shown in that video. They very well could be designing the finished product appropriately, and what we see in this video is just plate lights that a software designer thought to add reverse light functionality to.

Thank you for looking that up and providing the link.

The license plate lights, no matter what they do in reverse in this clip, are not the [only] backup lights. I see 4 sets of rearward lights: 2 sets on the bumper, one set on the tailgate, and one above the back window. Are you saying no combination of these lights will meet federal regulations?

 

[Jhodgesatmb]

That's on them, not you then. As a driver and a manufacturer, is your responsibility to make sure the liability for accidents does not fall on you. If something happens as a fault of the other party when you have taken all precautions, and the manufacturer has equally provided all necessary safety cues, then it's not you or the manufacturers fault. As is, the manufacturer will be considered liable if a similar situation happened in the real world as a result of those reverse light placements.

I can't believe people on here at actually arguing against common sense/simple/basic safety in design. We are literally talking about the easiest design change with minimal costs involved in said change. The wiring and light fixtures already exist in the appropriate place, just split one small section of the brake lights off to have pure white reverse lights. You don't even have to remove the existing lights. You can leave them in addition to the ones on the correct location. Or you can remove the plate ones and save your cents on the unit if so desired.

Those lights primary purpose is for everyone else around you, not the person in the car. Secondary purpose is to aid lighting up behind you at night. Not the other way around.

If you hit a pedestrian with a car you are at fault. I for one am not arguing against common sense but against your interpretation of facts. I am convinced that the truck will have super lights because to Tesla safety is rule 1.

 

[Crissa]

Argue with the NHTSA.

Just stating facts. I know, NHTSA is more about process than those.

-Crissa

 

[jhogan2424]

And yet you know it’s there…

No necessarily. Rear steering could just be an option on higher cost models.

 

[RVAC]

I suspect that the light bar has different settings.

The main issue is that it is no longer an uninterrupted bar. So you have those small squares for brake lights at both ends that look bad as they give a retro 80's look. It's a money saving design choice as they now do not need an additional set of lights when the tailgate is down.

 

[TheLastStarfighter]

The main issue is that it is no longer an uninterrupted bar. So you have those small squares for brake lights at both ends that look bad as they give a retro 80's look. It's a money saving design choice as they now do not need an additional set of lights when the tailgate is down.

I’m digging the 80s digital vibe.

 

[RVAC]

It's a bumper. That's what it's for.

-Crissa

He's talking about the diffuser area. It's been done for aero not for "bumping".

Tesla advertised the departure angle so the bumper will take that into consideration. Tesla always delivers better than its unveiling prototypes.

It's quite visibly less, either the OG prototype had an even better departure angle than what was stated at the November event or the angle will be worse than what they unveiled.

 

[CyberGus]

I’m digging the 80s digital vibe.

 

[CyberGus]

It's a money saving design choice as they now do not need an additional set of lights when the tailgate is down.

You could always install those $6000 tail lights from GM

 

[Throwcomputer]

The main issue is that it is no longer an uninterrupted bar. So you have those small squares for brake lights at both ends that look bad as they give a retro 80's look. It's a money saving design choice as they now do not need an additional set of lights when the tailgate is down.

Those small squares are part of the uninterrupted bar at the top of the tailgate still. They are just optical divisions on the lights themselves.

I posted this months ago when I noticed it, but when tailgate is down, they've embedded matching brake lights on the inside of the side walls facing rear where the tailgate locks in the up position. I'll find the image I posted which highlighted it and update here when I do.

EDIT:

https://www.cybertruckownersclub.com/forum/threads/ct-rear-bumper-is-not-a-bumper.3643/post-64591

 

[Throwcomputer]

me too. Just wish it was more kitt light bar than it currently is.

 

[RVAC]

Those small squares are part of the uninterrupted bar at the top of the tailgate still. They are just optical divisions on the lights themselves.

I posted this months ago when I noticed it, but when tailgate is down, they've embedded matching brake lights on the inside of the side walls facing rear where the tailgate locks in the up position. I'll find the image I posted which highlighted it and update here when I do.

EDIT:

https://www.cybertruckownersclub.com/forum/threads/ct-rear-bumper-is-not-a-bumper.3643/post-64591

That's the OG prototype.

 

[Throwcomputer]

That's the OG prototype.

Its all we got to go on for that specific part of the frame/design. We've never seen that spot since. So one cannot assume it has changed just because the lighting array on the tailgate itself has slightly changed.

 

[CyberGus]

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/elon-musk-eyes-potential-investment-191605835.html


MEXICO CITY (Reuters) -Tesla Inc Chief Executive Elon Musk is considering investing in the northern Mexican state of Nuevo Leon, which borders Texas, two people with knowledge of the matter said on Monday.

Musk recently held a meeting in the state with Nuevo Leon Governor Samuel Garcia along with other local officials and Ken Salazar, the U.S. ambassador to Mexico, one of the sources said.

Musk is looking in particular at Santa Catarina, a municipality on the outskirts of state capital Monterrey, one of Mexico's biggest and wealthiest cities, the person added. The sources did not detail what Musk's potential investment may entail.

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