Rumor: $98900 price for tri-motor Cybertruck??

[SlegMD]

The difference is, now we have a delivery date. And instead of quieting down, its like these types of threads have exploded 100x. Its like they know soon they won't be able to speculate anymore, and are trying to do as much speculating now as possible.

@Mini2nut is just as guilty, with his reply above and cute "Dual Motor reservation holders" threads that ive been trying to ignore.. Not interesting in the slightest, they are infuriating. But i'll go eat some breakfast and maybe feel better.

Everyone is over it, and basically are busting their nut, some unfortunately before time.
That being said, we all need release from this torture.
I like the cybertruck, I kind of view it as one of the few toys I don’t have that I would like( though with some practical applications for sure), but I’m not going to make a bad deal to get one.

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[cvalue13]

That works IF people haven’t abandoned ship and bought something else, AND you haven’t ticked them off to the point they don’t come back.

I don’t think Tesla has any serious concern that it will so deeply cut into existing CT fans, if only considering CT fans yet to come.

Tesla’s done equal or more ‘risky’ things in the past and been aok.

Promised model trims that never came, promises vehicles that never came, blown up $1,000 reservation queues and delivered to noobs before slivering to reservation holders, promised FSD will be fully functional ‘next year’ since like 2014, taken deposits on the new roadster (crickets)… I’m sure the better versed could go on

I mean, really, delivering the “dual motor” variant, plus a surprise ‘performance’ trim, at a higher price that announced in 2019 seems pretty low down the list of possible grievances

and they march on, no?

 

[SlegMD]

Who said it has to be an EV? I need to replace a 1/2 ton size truck. Tesla made a compelling argument at the reveal. If that is not what they can deliver, then I'm happy (not red faced nor stomping) to buy an ICE replacement.



It's only compelling because of what they revealed 4 years ago. If they revealed a 350 mile truck for $70k I wouldn't even know Cybertruckownersclub.com existed.

There is plenty of suitable ICE competition to replace my F150 when needed. No hard feeling. My stock may take a dump, which I won't be thrilled about, but all I can do hope they are doing what's best for the company.

There's a whole discussion that should be had for Tesla's goals and what is happening with the CT. I think they should be prioritizing the needs/wants of current 1/2 ton truck owners if their goal is to remove those ICE trucks from the roads and convert those owners to EV. It seems to me this would be far more important then selling CTs to new truck owners who are just intrigued by the design of the CT, but who have otherwise managed, and dare I say, even promoted their own smarter way of life without using a full size truck. I'm not discrediting those people, but if they are now going to buy a CT when they have not needed a 1/2 ton truck in the past... is there an argument to be made that their CT purchase is more wasteful than what they need? Even if it is, I personally do not care. I'm just thinking about Teslas goals. And if Tesla is not catering to the current 1/2 ton owners (most popular vehicle in North America that also produces the most pollution) and those ICE half tons stay on the road because Tesla didn't deliver what they said they were going to deliver, and they additionally sell resource heavy CTs to clients that have otherwise lived their life without a vehicle that size...it just seems directly counter to Tesla's environmental goals.

But whatever, I'm just one of the tens of millions currently in a class of low mpg, high pollution drivers out there. Someday someone will make something I find suitable. I thought it was going to be the CT, maybe it will be the RAM in 2025, maybe it won't.

Well said.
I think what everyone(?) is “sort of” anxious about is what Tesla will reveal. With this revelation, of the CT, it will also confirm whether Tesla is truly an innovator, or producer of the “status quo” that were are adjusted too from past decades.

 

[RVAC]

There's also a dual motor version ...

yeah, Model S plaid is currently only $15K more than base.

that said, the Plaid was originally $131K, while the LR trim below it was $95K - a $35K delta

so in the CT, the real question will be what else comes in the ‘performance’ package?

• The motors should mean it’s not only faster and more powerful, but that towing rating is better (since power assists in several of the tow rating calculation tests)
• Exclusive trim
• Premium wheel set standard
• other?

So while I agree that $30K strikes me as a big delta, I’ve often been surprised but what car companies can charge for either exclusivity (eg the exclusive trim) or add-ons (eg the premium wheels)

for example, with The Lightning, the price delta between the Lariat ER and Platinum trim was close to $13K, and all that got you was the badging, ‘upgraded leather’, massaging seats, larger rims, and - as a result of the added weight and and larger rims - a decrease in range by 6.25%.

And some people paid it!

Doubting my instincts here whether a $30K delta is unhinged (or if instead it’s buyers that can be unhinged)

Agreed, right at launch it was as high as $40k between Model S LR and Plaid. The market for fast trucks may be smaller than that of fast cars but if they have constraints elsewhere, like the CF motors, it would be logical to control for that limitation through pricing.

Bucket seats, like the ones seen on the truck that went to baja, would be a good idea. Common complaint on other high performance Tesla models.

 

[cvalue13]

Bucket seats, like the ones seen on the truck that went to baja, would be a good idea. Common complaint on other high performance Tesla models.

would be great

the Raptor seats were the most comfortable I’ve ever owned, and one of a few things I miss most about that truck*

*that and the suspension - which effectively spattered the world in front of me; could drive over a median without spilling your coffee

 

[CybertruckCovers]

At first glance, this appears real, but after further thought, I doubt it. If this is true, Tesla is basically forcing some of its first CT reservation holders to make an expensive purchase of a product sight unseen and then punish them by taking away their reservation position for not making a hasty decision without any released specs, advertising or public announcement. Not a cool or smart way to treat early CT adopters, so I'm going to say it's B.S.

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[BenH]

At first glance, this appears real, but after further thought, I doubt it. If this is true, Tesla is basically forcing some of its first CT reservation holders to make an expensive purchase of a product sight unseen and then punish them by taking away their reservation position for not making a hasty decision without any released specs, advertising or public announcement. Not a cool or smart way to treat early CT adopters, so I'm going to say it's B.S.

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Actually, I know someone had same experience from Tesla sales rep when he bought his model Y.

 

[Stuck4ger]

Good point. If FSD stands for Full Self-Driving ( not Fool’s Self-Driving) and handing it over to a person at some point is not an option, it will likely stop when it does not know what it is doing. Now we need a cliff and a volunteer to test it.

I can see an option on the FSD customization page for selectable Thelma & Louise Mode.

 

[CyberGus]

To back up, they didn’t say they’d sell 125K in the first year, they said they’d aspire to reach that run rate at some point during 2024

let’s say they have a ramp curve that gets them to 125K run rate as early as beginning of Q1 (unlikely, but), assume they make only 100K Total CTs in 2024

of those 100K CTs, you only plan to build/sell 20K (though the exclusivity buyers and wealthy might give that a run for the money)

and so that leaves 80k base CTs at $[65]K

you can sell that many of the ‘hot new’ CT to the reservation list

then late 2024 you announce a cheaper one and a LR one, now you’re on your way to your (again bc ramp) 200K in 2025.

etc., etc.

all the above and, to the extent the top trim is $1 less than $100K, ramp is slower in 2024, there are more exclusivity buyers, or a new offering comes out sooner - it all gets even easier


**this could be an interesting separate post…

No one positing the outrageous Cybertruck prices are suggesting that the price would later drop to realistic levels. Please return the goalposts to their original location, kthx

 

[cvalue13]

No one positing the outrageous Cybertruck prices are suggesting that the price would later drop to realistic levels. Please return the goalposts to their original location, kthx

I’m exactly pointing out what people aren’t saying

E.g. “they’ll never sell many at $100K” fails to add “but maybe they don’t plan to”

Saying “releasing a $100K truck means Tesla’s plans will bust” fails to add “only assuming that’s the beginning and end of their plan”

Saying “I’ll never buy a CT if they release one @ $100K” fails to add “out of pure stubborn principle, even if they release a cheaper version now or in the future, and in any event maybe Tesla doesn’t think I’m the only customer of importance in the world”

We’re in 100% agreement that people posting outrageous CT prices with hot takes, aren’t saying important bits.

Put differently: their goalposts are strawmen in the first place

 

[CT8769]

This seems about where I expected to see it.

Tri-Motor will start in $100k range
Dual-Motor will start in the $75k range
They'll never get to the single motor...

Going to make it a tough purchase for a car that is likely to have all kinds of problems. They may get through that 2mm order list pretty quickly.

 

[Crissa]

Range on Lightning is interesting. It’s understated as they rated it with 1,000 lbs cargo compared to...

This rumor has been found to be false.

-Crissa

 

[ED_SFO]

I think they can sell 20k $100K cybertrucks next year. But I'm not in a hurry and would still want a 2025 year model with lots of bugs already been fixed. Exciting times!

 

[Jhodgesatmb]

There's also a dual motor version ...



Agreed, right at launch it was as high as $40k between Model S LR and Plaid. The market for fast trucks may be smaller than that of fast cars but if they have constraints elsewhere, like the CF motors, it would be logical to control for that limitation through pricing.

Bucket seats, like the ones seen on the truck that went to baja, would be a good idea. Common complaint on other high performance Tesla models.

You may recall that, at Investor Day, Tesla boasted that they can now build a drive unit for a flat $1,000, so knock off what, $5,000 from the $98,000 price tag? I am not saying that I believe this price, or that it will stay with us for very long; only that removing a drive unit is not likely to be the savings you are suggesting.

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