Dual Motor reservation holders, still a buyer at $79,900?

[KHappe]

Dont get confused with a tri-motor vs tri-motor plaid. Plaid has carbon wrapped motors for high rpm. Regular tri-motor does not.

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[Jhodgesatmb]

You mentioned that the interior resembles the Y and 3. Is this because of the layout of the screens? Keep in mind that the Cybertruck is set to launch with the largest screen Tesla has ever produced, just under 19 inches. It's also introducing Tesla's first powered Frunk, along with rear-wheel steering.

Additionally, there's a new manufacturing process and a suite of cameras that no other Tesla has. Yet, despite all these advancements plus what i mentioned previously, it's still expected to be cheaper? I'll reserve judgment until I see it, but I'm inclined to think you might be mistaken. I hope not, but that's my impression for now.

'We' didn't set the original prices or the specs. That was Tesla. All of these features, original or new, were dictated by Elon, not by consumers. Yes, the 4WS was probably necessary given how long the Cybertruck 'was' and early driving experiences by Elon, but it was his decision. The pricing may very well initially be high, but that doesn't mean that the consumer has to be happy about it, especially if we have been planning on a specific price for 4 years. 60% isn't a drop in the bucket for many, and even people who won't qualify for the tax rebate don't just throw $30K around.

 

[Regenshire]

People your are forgetting using a whole new 800v architecture with 1 mw charging capabilities.

The design and r&d with that alone must've been massive, prob co developed with the semi. Stainless steel is still way more expensive now then first debut in 2019. When the whole car is covered in it add significant cost. Like they can't even try to replace the stainless steel with a cheaper material.

Would be interesting if they offered stamped steel with paint. Would it be worth $10-15k less. But initially I think dual motor will be right under $80k for the first 6-8 months. To me that price is fairly accurate to competitors pricing.

But isn't the primary purpose of the 800v architecture, 48v low voltage, and the new 4860 battery architecture to reduce manufacturing cost by improving efficiency of manufacturing? As far as I am aware, that is why those systems were developed, not because they offer some massive difference in performance to consumers, but because they should reduce the cost to manufacture the vehicles (once the technology/manufacturing is mature).

 

[Mini2nut]

Reservation holders simply have to look at the BEV pickup competition already on the market to get an idea regarding new MSRP’s. Nothing on the market is inexpensive other than the fleet focused $52k Lightning Pro which is virtually impossible to order.

-A 2024 Dual Motor Lightning Flash/Lariat will start at $72k
-A Dual Motor Rivian R1T with a large battery pack starts around $80k

The technology in the Cybertruck will blow both of them out of the water. Neither one has RWS, 800 volt charging architecture, 48 volt electrical system, super durable stainless steel exterior, aluminum Giga castings front and rear, steer-by-wire technology (maybe), no handles anywhere on the vehicle, heat pump HVAC technology, superior software, access to the painless Supercharging network, etc.

The Canoo pickup will be the only truly affordable pickup if it ever goes into production. The truck is basically a 21st century version of the old VW air-cooled pickup truck.

 

[scottf200]

obviously this could have been edited -- ie. inspected tesla page
UPDATE: also that seems like it would be the filename (ie. file within the documents folder)
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CyberTruck ? @day_to_Mars
22m
? CyberTruck $68K
Anonymous user posted in a Facebook Group.

 

[Crissa]

Dont get confused with a tri-motor vs tri-motor plaid. Plaid has carbon wrapped motors for high rpm. Regular tri-motor does not.

Tesla has never said these were different.

-Crissa

 

[Gurule92]

oh for sure

that said and separately:

if a vehicle with the weight, tire size, and drag of the CT are to achieve anything like the previously stated speed and power stats, that‘s got to come from somewhere

can’t imagine you can just plop eg the Model S standard motors in a CT and get there

4.5 second 0-60 is likely achievable with MYP or base X motors. typically we estimate 100lbs = .1 seconds. So 1000lbs more would make it 4.5ish

Model X is a big boi and does 3.8 seconds 0-60 without plaid motors. Add 1000lbs to that and we are around 4.8. If they pushed the motors harder they could get lower.

P100D motors on model X had it under 3 didn't they?

The 2.9 would likely require plaid motors which is why I said 1 variant might.

 

[Gurule92]

Tesla has never said these were different.

-Crissa

Or the same

 

[Mini2nut]

$68k would be a awesome MSRP for the DM. It would undercut a comparable R1T or Lightning by thousands of dollars.

 

[Gurule92]

$68k would be a awesome MSRP for the DM. It would undercut a comparable R1T or Lightning by thousands of dollars.

I wish it was real but I just went and checked..

Also, why would it just be under documents?

what it really looks like

also, that reservation number is really low

 

[cvalue13]

The 2.9 would likely require plaid motors which is why I said 1 variant might.

yeah, agree all-around

also, run your numbers on sub 2.5 sec

 

[mrbig1225]

'We' didn't set the original prices or the specs. That was Tesla. All of these features, original or new, were dictated by Elon, not by consumers. Yes, the 4WS was probably necessary given how long the Cybertruck 'was' and early driving experiences by Elon, but it was his decision. The pricing may very well initially be high, but that doesn't mean that the consumer has to be happy about it, especially if we have been planning on a specific price for 4 years. 60% isn't a drop in the bucket for many, and even people who won't qualify for the tax rebate don't just throw $30K around.

What makes you think CT will use plaid motors? We've seen no confirmation of this Maybe 1 variant will.

A big battery pack is expensive but once again, that was already considered at unveil. Plus rumors say highest range right now will be in the 300s. Which likely wouldn't require a much bigger pack.

Plus, if the battery day stats are to be believed, batteries are getting cheaper.

V2G hasn't been confirmed either. If anything Elon has said no multiple times.

And normal plugs in the bed were already considered at unveil.

See link:

 

[DMC-81]

For “Dual Motor” reservation holders only.

We are just over a month away from the official pricing announcement for the Cybertruck trim levels.

If a standard battery pack Dual Motor Cybertruck MSRP’s for $79,900 are you still following through with your purchase?

No. $79,900 or a 60% price increase would make me walk away. I reserved the Dual Motor CT because at $49,900 it was a great value for an EV.

If it is more, that increase needs to be explainable.

It doesn't make sense that at $79,900 it will be approximately $25,000 more than a dual motor performance Model Y with added paint, wheels, interior and tow hitch options (priced today):

Elon remarked that if the CT was priced at the X or S levels that it would only be a niche model. I hope Tesla hasn't changed the product positioning for this truck, i.e. domination.

 

[mrbig1225]

Dont get confused with a tri-motor vs tri-motor plaid. Plaid has carbon wrapped motors for high rpm. Regular tri-motor does not.

Lol... the tri motor setup is plaid....

 

[KHappe]

Lol... the tri motor setup is plaid....

I do not know that is true.
Three motor design doesnt mean carbon wrapped motors.
Plaid requires carbon wrapped motors.

I havent seen anything that says tri-motor has carbon wrapped motors. Could have missed it. I have seen that Plaid requires carbon wrapped motors.

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