Air suspension has hidden air outlet to manually raise/lower suspension in case of failure

[KuMX]

In case of air suspension failure, the Cybertruck has an air outlet (connected to the air suspension tank) under the rear arch that can presumably be used to raise / lower the air suspension.

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[SolarWizard]

I really dislike the amount of vulnerable stuff they have tucked into the fender flare area.
Wont be a problem for most but the off road crowd will be in for some aggravation

 

[Gurule92]

Smart

 

[hridge2020]

Can you guys post the owners manual?? We'll be able see also all the nifty items too.

 

[CyberGus]

Can you guys post the owners manual?? We'll be able see also all the nifty items too.

https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual

There doesn't seem to be one yet. Even within the vehicle, the manual is pulled from the website.

 

[Jhodgesatmb]

In case of air suspension failure, the Cybertruck has an air outlet (connected to the air suspension tank) under the rear arch that can presumably be used to raise / lower the air suspension.

I hope it comes with a cap (or, here is a great but simple aftermarket idea) to keep crud from making it disfunctional.

 

[cvalue13]

https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual

There doesn't seem to be one yet. Even within the vehicle, the manual is pulled from the website.

Still feels to me that Tesla is somehow orchestrating the details of these vehicle’s characterization (eg special edition, etc), their roll-out, etc., in a way intended for Tesla to not yet be treated for financial purposes as having begun actual production. EPAs still not finalized, no public owners manual, etc., are all examples of these odd and trailing bits of info that to me have a whiff of some financials strategy.


Would love to be able to chat with a CFO of a public auto manufacturer to press around these nuances.

 

[CyberMoose]

I really dislike the amount of vulnerable stuff they have tucked into the fender flare area.
Wont be a problem for most but the off road crowd will be in for some aggravation

I don't think I would be overly worried about this. Even off-roading, except in some pretty extreme circumstances, I don't see too many times that I'm hitting those specific areas, above and in front of the tires. Plus it's either completely destroying the fender flare, or going through the steel body, or going into the wheel well and puncturing through.

If someone is going through an area that rough with jagged rocks that might do that, I would hope they are in a more specialized offroad vehicle. Like even taking an F150, putting bigger offroad wheels on it isn't making it a true offroad vehicle. It's the same with the Cybertruck and Rivian; you have off-roading capabilities but I am not going to recommend someone take it over giant rocks and taking it down basically cliffs. things you can do in a proper offroad vehicle.

The only worry I could realistically see with this placement is the risk that it is damaged in a collision. Which again, has to be severe enough to dent that steel in enough to actually damage it. I'm not going to worry about something like losing air pressure in the suspension which was the result of a collision that I will be making an insurance claim for anyway.

I think too many people are worrying about situations that 99.999%+ of drivers will likely never have to worry about and thinking it's going to be a bigger issue than it is. Just like how people watched movies growing up and thought quicksand was going to be something they were going to have to worry about.

 

[scottf200]

Tech info at 28:09 discusses why no tire compressor

 

[CyberMoose]

Tech info at 28:09 discusses why no tire compressor

This is exactly what I thought the reason was going to be when it didn't have it included. Would it be possible to add one? absolutely. But then they have to find a spot for it and to fit it might sacrifice something else or it's just adding unnecessary cost.

And ultimately I'm sure the decision came down to how many people are going to use it? Can they save money by not including something that just won't really matter to the majority of customers. Especially since most people won't be getting the spare package and won't have a spare to fill up. Even I will only put it in when I plan to offroad and that's maybe going to be a half dozen times a year outside of winter. Outside of those situations, I'm happy to call my roadside assistance to tow me home where I can put the spare on until I get the tire repaired.

The majority of people aren't using their truck as a work truck and won't have any need for a compressor on the truck for their tools. Many of the ones that actually use their truck as a work truck will likely have their own compressor since they probably don't want to do all their jobs within a short distance of their truck and don't want some extended hose going across a work site.

While it would be nice to see the low pressure warning and just fill your tires anywhere, who wants to carry around a hose in the bed for such a rare occurrence that can also be resolved by stopping by pretty much any gas station/car wash on your drive and filling up there for like a dollar.

This is just a good example of Tesla taking out something that, while nice to have, won't be useful for the vast majority of their customers. It's better to put something more useful in or just save the cost. I'm sure that's also probably the reason that the rear center seat is no longer heated, while it's nice, it's going to be the least used one and Tesla has the data for how often it gets used.

 

[scottf200]

The majority of people aren't using their truck as a work truck and won't have any need for a compressor on the truck for their tools. Many of the ones that actually use their truck as a work truck will likely have their own compressor since they probably don't want to do all their jobs within a short distance of their truck and don't want some extended hose going across a work site.

While it would be nice to see the low pressure warning and just fill your tires anywhere, who wants to carry around a hose in the bed for such a rare occurrence that can also be resolved by stopping by pretty much any gas station/car wash on your drive and filling up there for like a dollar.

Key point ... it would take forever to fill a tire let alone 4 tires if airing up after lower for grip while 4-wheeling.

 

[CyberMoose]

Key point ... it would take forever to fill a tire let alone 4 tires if airing up after lower for grip while 4-wheeling.

Well 20-30 minutes to fill a tire, while unfortunate, isn't a dealbreaker if enough people would use it.
On my last car, I checked the air pressure in the spare anytime I was checking the other tires. someone who keeps up with that won't need more than a quick top up when they actually put the spare on.

While this is the reason they provided, i'm certain that when they were going around talking to people, when they determined to not have a stainless steel bed, they probably asked about other features that could make the Cybertruck a work truck.

I'm sure that people that really really wanted an air compressor would be fine if it took a while in the rare event of needing their spare. But Tesla likely found that people just weren't interested enough in that feature.

I actually just took a moment to look for videos of Rivian owners using their compressor for actual tools...and couldn't find one. There might be one but i'm not going to look past page 2 of youtube. Not even many videos with people trying to fill up their tires, which seems more complicated than it should be. I think it's a feature that sounds cool but almost no one would use.

But 20-30 minutes to fill up a tire when your other option is a tow...that's still a pretty good option considering how long you have to wait sometimes and the cost of a tow if you don't have roadside assistance. But I just don't think that many people keep a flat spare on them.

 

[scottf200]

Well 20-30 minutes to fill a tire, while unfortunate, isn't a dealbreaker if enough people would use it.
On my last car, I checked the air pressure in the spare anytime I was checking the other tires. someone who keeps up with that won't need more than a quick top up when they actually put the spare on.

While this is the reason they provided, i'm certain that when they were going around talking to people, when they determined to not have a stainless steel bed, they probably asked about other features that could make the Cybertruck a work truck.

I'm sure that people that really really wanted an air compressor would be fine if it took a while in the rare event of needing their spare. But Tesla likely found that people just weren't interested enough in that feature.

I actually just took a moment to look for videos of Rivian owners using their compressor for actual tools...and couldn't find one. There might be one but i'm not going to look past page 2 of youtube. Not even many videos with people trying to fill up their tires, which seems more complicated than it should be. I think it's a feature that sounds cool but almost no one would use.

But 20-30 minutes to fill up a tire when your other option is a tow...that's still a pretty good option considering how long you have to wait sometimes and the cost of a tow if you don't have roadside assistance. But I just don't think that many people keep a flat spare on them.

I 100% agree in an emergency / inconvenience that 20-30 minutes is slow but better than the alternative. It is annoyingly slow tho.

I was thinking of the other use case I've seen on forums and youtube videos where people are off roading and lowering their tire pressure. Then at the end of the day/trip they need to air up all four tires again.

 

[TickTock]

Could be used to parallel in a bigger tank in the bed. Let the slow onboard pump "trickle-pump" that all day and then can pump up your tires as fast as you want. As long as the onboard pump is designed for 100% duty-cycle this should work quite well.

 

[Cybertruck 1974]

I for one really wished they installed a compressor that could operate air tools, pump up a car tire. Its essential for my work. I purchased a small rechargeable air pump on Amazon that fits in my pocket that can fill a bicycle tire in 45 seconds to 65psi. They easily could have done better and made this one step better than all the trucks out there with very little cost or effort.

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