Only if people didn't opt for the models that were being made.
as i think about it more and more.. i suspect the entire configurator may change.... based on how the Y etc are configured i wouldn't be surprised to see us have an option of 2 engine, Long distance or performance, and plaid... were the Long Distance and performance are both 3 engine varients with a difference in the size of the structural battery pack.. but that is just me taking a swag.
I ordered a dual CT but I'll update it to tri when permitted. The only reason is so I can go 500?? miles on a full charge. I have a M3 LR now and very disappointed I call it Short range. It's only my opinion that I could live with 0-60 5.0 secs and speed 110 mph max if it goes 450+ mi. This 0-60 in 4.5 sec and 135 mph in my M3 is both true and bullshit. Yes, it's so fast from one stop light to the next then to the light. Yes, I've driven 125 mph without the car shaking but lucky there's no cop. Where will I drive these features, in the race track? My BMW used to go 500 miles on full tank. Now, I'm lucky if I could go 230 mi yet it's rated 330 mi. Unless I drive probably 45 mph in I-15 at less than 200 watthr. For me, most IMPORTANT is RANGE, IMO.
You had an M3 that could go 500mi?! On one tank?!
I have an Outback. I actually have the most efficient Outback they make.
I just wanted to help with potential misunderstanding you two may have had. It looks like it was not a misunderstanding. I did not mean to ask for your approval of my own experience. I have driven her outback on road trips many times. Granted I usually cruise at 64-74 pending speed limit and constant 80 is not my speed. But over 500 the way I drive is definitively true. Stated capacity for her tank (2016 outback) is 18.5 gallons and stated efficiency of 33 miles/gallon. So if you do the math Subaru says this wagon can go 610 miles. I usually get around 31 mile/gallons on those trips (around 570 range) but I can do much better on back roads on shorter trips. Not sure what the point of all of this is. I doubt anyone can argue this outback is a better road tripping vehicle (long distance) than most EVs especially those that donāt have access to super chargers.
I donāt doubt that you can get 500 miles on the Subaru at 65 MPHā¦ Iāve done it many times myself. Itās the idea that you can get that range when going 75+ the whole trip.
This is certainly true. I see that with people starting a conversation with me when they find out what I am driving is an EV. For me personally, the reason I took the Subaru instead of my truck in the last road trip (Maryland to Ontario) was not necessarily the range difference between the two but what happens when they exhaust that range. With Subaru, there was no planning, no compromises on where I stop to rest, eat or rejuice and no worries I may get stranded if EA does not play ball. I theoretically could make it work based on what ABRP told me but it simply was not as easy. A 300 mile Subaru would have been just as good as a 610 mile Subaru because I could refuel anywhere in 5 minutes If I needed. I suspect this difference will shrink as reliable charging locations increase and the tech improves to reduce charging time. For now the combination of the two makes having an EV a pleasure for me. Yesterday I loaded my truck with a couch, two Kayaks on top and filled every inch of available space with junk to transport. I juiced up my 98 KWh battery to 96% when I started my regular 140 mile trip. I was a bit nervous thinking the raised racks and kayaks are going to kill my range (non-Tesla public charging sucks on second part of my trip). So just to be safe I took slower roads. My max speed was a short lived 77 mph. Most of my speed was 64 and bellow and included many traffic lights and slower speed. I was shocked to see gessometer at 2.4 mi/KWh for much of the trip until I hit that 77 mph burst. There was a 7 series BMW that needed to be thought a lesson
I really had to keep the stupid in me in check with acceleration so he didnāt end up with a couch and two kayaks on his windshield. Anyways, I ended up with 2.3 mi/KWh at the end of the trip and a ton of juice left in the pack.
My BMW was a 535i. It had an 18 gallon tank. I could squeeze 500 miles if I had a long distance drive at 80 mph. It was rated 17/26. I know 26 x 18 is only 468 but pure highway driving gave me 500. It is not an BMW M3. BMW gave a true mileage rating at least on my car. The M3 mentioned is Tesla Model 3.
My reasoning is very personal. I live in a place that's 85 miles to a big city WITHOUT CHARGERS ALONG THE WAY, yet, where I shop for ethnic groceries visit relatives and do other stops. The highway terrain is far from normal. So much winding and people don't drive under 80 for a 70- mile stretch of 75 mph limit. One time I drove 70 mph only to get a decent mileage on my EV, I felt sorry for myself. Every vehicle passed me by regardless if old cargo trucks, small old cars, shuttles, buses, etc. I said this is not what I paid for this $50K car, supposed to go 135 mph and accelerate 4.2 secs 0 to 60. These specs are bullshit, not usable, impractical. I thought I shouldn't have to worry about the range going back home. I was so used to driving anywhere without worry coz I could return home with juice for more trips. To be honest, if I knew beforehand that I have to sacrifice, I wish I would have held on to my BMW. The friend I sold my BMW to is very, very happy with it.This is certainly true. I see that with people starting a conversation with me when they find out what I am driving is an EV. For me personally, the reason I took the Subaru instead of my truck in the last road trip (Maryland to Ontario) was not necessarily the range difference between the two but what happens when they exhaust that range. With Subaru, there was no planning, no compromises on where I stop to rest, eat or rejuice and no worries I may get stranded if EA does not play ball. I theoretically could make it work based on what trip advisor told me but it simply was not as easy. A 300 mile Subaru would have been just as good as a 610 mile Subaru because I could refuel anywhere in 5 minutes If I needed. I suspect this difference will shrink as reliable charging locations increase and the tech improves to reduce charging time. For now the combination of the two makes having an EV a pleasure for me. Yesterday I loaded my truck with a couch, two Kayaks on top and filled every inch of available space with junk to transport. I juiced up my 98 KWh battery to 96% when I started my regular 140 mile trip. I was a bit nervous thinking the raised racks and kayaks are going to kill my range (non-Tesla public charging sucks on second part of my trip). So just to be safe I took slower roads. My max speed was a short lived 77 mph. Most of my speed was 64 and bellow and included many traffic lights and slower speed. I was shocked to see gessometer at 2.4 mi/KWh for much of the trip until I hit that 77 mph burst. There was a 7 series BMW that needed to be thought a lesson
All that to say, you are right about the speed. That matters more than anything especially in a big box like my ride. I used to have fun with that with the Subaru and tried to keep the gessometer over 45 mpg as long as I could but it was just a game. I still drove at a comfortable speed on the highway. Now I am much more conscious of it on longer trips with the EV but as I understand the truck and impact of different conditions on it, my comfort level increases. For some ICE people, that may tow long distance often, they wonāt budge until the tech and infrastructure catches up but for the rest, it is a matter of one good acceleration (and may be a good price) and they will switch teams. For me personally, once superchargers are on line or when I get a CT, I probably wonāt use the Subaru that much.
