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No worries, I'm selling my 2017 Toyota Tundra Crewmax to get my money out of it, then going with a 2002 Subaru Outback for $4k. It's going to be a sweet upgrade when the Cybertruck hits. I hope to know someone with a F150 Lightning, so I can challenge him to the bulletproof to a 9mm test 3 rds into his door, vs 3 rds into my Cybertrk door then laugh at the 3 holes in his door and drive off Ahahahaha o_O:ROFLMAO:🤣🤣🙃
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Now if the current administration hasn't tanked the economy by then. 😩 This is worst than the old Heinz ketchup commercials. 😁
Not to be political, but... Odds are against tanking..

... With a Republican in the White House, though, the economy's growth slowed to 2.54%, the economists found. With a Democrat in office, growth jumped to 4.35% on average.

A variety of other economic indicators, such as per capita GDP, stock market returns, real wages and the change in the unemployment rate, are also more robust with a Democratic president, the economists found. Unemployment fell by 0.8 percentage points with a Democratic president on average, while it rose 1.1 percentage points with a Republican. ...

"The U.S. economy has performed better when the president of the United States is a Democrat rather than a Republican, almost regardless of how one measures performance," according to the report titled "Presidents and the Economy: A Forensic Investigation."
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...versee-recessions-dems-recoveries/5235957002/

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48k reservations vs Fords 150k plus and over a million Cyber truck. I would be concerned with buying into Rivian's IPO. To me Rivian will be the Tundra of the electric truck world.
They still have a long way to go to be out of the woods. No charging network or widely available service centers yet. Amazon pushing for vans may reduce their resources available for trucks so they may even have trouble delivering that 48K. September is over and they are still buying time to deliver to real people. They are not through production hell yet and it will be years to reach Tesla level maturity but I cross my fingers they do. We need more American companies capable of producing good EVs to succeed.

p.s. I don’t see Rivian coming to truck market like Tundra did. Tundra came to a saturated truck market with more of the same. I see Rivian coming to a toy market (Jeep, Bronco, TRD Pro, …) during shortage with a unique product. There is nothing like R1S out there. I think they will sell whatever they can make in the first year. The question is if they can survive (be profitable) long enough to produce lower price trucks. Then they can have a sustainable demand.
 
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This sucks. Wonder how many people will jump to F 150 Lightning due to the wait. I'm sure several.
Sure is frustrating because volume production in 2023 does not mean you and I will get our CTs. Depending on our spot on the waiting list, and where we live, it could be 2024 before we get ours. 2024! I guess I will drive a Rivian while I wait....
 

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if they want lower performance they will.
I rode in a Ford Lightning last week at a Ford Ride event. Lower performance? The acceleration was crazy fast. You do not need to go faster than 4 seconds 0-60 in a full size pickup. Combing over the Lightnings they had there for us to check out Ford they did a nice job designing that truck. Great frunk, tons of electric outlets, a really nice, usable truck bed. They will sell everyone they make...especially to buyers that want a full sized pickup that looks like a "normal" pickup.
 

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This sucks. Wonder how many people will jump to F 150 Lightning due to the wait. I'm sure several.
With Ford's track record of electrical problems, the last thing I would buy from them is an electric vehicle.
 

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48k reservations vs Fords 150k plus and over a million Cyber truck. I would be concerned with buying into Rivian's IPO. To me Rivian will be the Tundra of the electric truck world.
When Tesla went public everyone was like “WTF Not enough room for another auto maker in the US, been 100 years since someone figured out how to do it!”

Now everyone is like “Rivian for $80b? I’ll take 2 please!”

Rivian has produced ~20 trucks total. If they were as good at manufacturing as they are at PR, they would have 20k out the door already.
 

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lol not with Fords production rate. by 2023 there will still be more Rivians out there than F150.
Rivians, Rivians, hmm … nope no Rivians, Bezos wants his vans first. How’s that again? Lucid, nope no Lucids, I heard Mrs Rawlinson called him inside when the street lights came on. 😂 Face it, we’re all in this together.
 

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Rivian is having trouble getting them out the door, yes, but they've made more than twenty trucks.

https://insideevs.com/news/517974/rivian-amazon-delivery-vans-coming/

-Crissa
Honestly this just emphasizes how weird their strategy is.

Trying to go from producing 0 vehicles to producing 3 different vehicles, 2 of which are highly configurable. Teslas Model S strategy seems easy by comparison.

I think they are ignoring not just Musk‘s word, but the fairly public struggles Tesla went through scaling up. It strikes me as a great deal of hubris.
 

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My Bitcoin will buy it by then. So no worries from me. I’ll keep driving my Dodge 3/4 ton diesel till then.
I'll not be selling my bitcoin, EVER. Selling is a taxable event. I might take a loan against it. Loans are not taxable.

Either way, I don't think a CT is gonna handle my trailer, and I'm not sure I can afford the semi. :(

On the bright side, all you guys that are in line behind me will probably move up in line.
The bad news is, I'm somewhere around the 1 million mark. :)
 

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I totally agree. You lower reservations folks have paid your dues. Definitely time to cash out and use that $100 for a tank of ICE gas.
LOL, I wish I could buy a tank of fuel for $100.
I'm getting about 10 mpg pulling my trailer. :(
 
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