Electric Pickup Truck Range Test to Dead : Cybertruck vs. Lightning, R1T, Silverado (by Out of Spec)

[scottf200]

Why not? Cybertruck is the only one to hit its stated range. It was a cyberbeast

These are very close and this is only highway driving (vs EPA city & highway).

All Tesla drivers know that Tesla method rarely meets their estimates and there has been a lot of reporting and adjustments based on that. Other brands are known to meet and exceed the EPA combined estimate that represents a combination of city and highway driving.

Jan'24: Title: Tesla lowers range estimates as U.S. regulators tighten vehicle-test rules
https://www.reuters.com/business/au...lators-tighten-vehicle-test-rules-2024-01-09/

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[HaulingAss]

No kidding but not too many people worry about range averaging 40 mph (or 29 mph for a recent Cybertruck range test posted) Far more worry about range driving longer distances at highway speed.

These are the words of someone who has never travelled longer distances using the Supercharger Network. The range is not a problem once you have a ubiquitous charge network.

 

[Gurule92]

In all honesty, I'm one of the biggest advocates for electrifying all transportation that you will find. But, if I had a need to tow large, heavy loads over-the-road, out of the local areas, across multiple states on a regular basis, but not enough to use a semi, I would use a HD gas or diesel pickup. Not because an electric pickup couldn't get the job done, but because they are not yet the correct tool for the job. And that job is very much a niche application for pickups anyway. Most people rarely tow anything, and those who do often only tow locally.

Of course, my entire life I've had a dim view of people towing homes on wheels behind them, wherever they go. If you understand the energy required, it's kind of a ridiculous activity, when you stop and think about it. It's an activity that has been enabled and encouraged by cheap gas and there is no historical counterpart for travelling in this manner, throughout all of human history. But, yeah, if I were to suddenly become dumb, and decide I wanted to bring that much crap with me when I travelled long distances, I would use a diesel or gas HD truck.

For sure. I personally will rarely tow anything and I like to make my decisions based on the majority of use.

If I towed more and couldn't afford both (or just didn't want both) an HD and an EV. I would use the Silveraydo.

Im not a tow guy though so, smart range works for me.

 

[Chip Geek]

there is no historical counterpart for travelling in this manner, throughout all of human history.

Uhh... Covered wagon?

 

[g7bupw9z]

Are you new here / from flat land / don't tow / etc ... because for literally years people were wanting a ~500 mile range truck for towing (ie. ~50% of that range) and that is what Tesla stated they were going to have in 2019 (with a full bed). You are missing the point that if people want to haul a trailer for work or pleasure than that is the price of admission. What is "reasonable" distance and size for YOU *definitely* is not what many others have asked for for year around here.

I represent the significant portion of consumers who are purchasing a Cybertruck for urban driving, essentially utilizing it as a multifunctional SUV. The appeal lies in its versatility, which allows it to serve as a robust city vehicle while offering the added utility and features of an SUV.

 

[CTInProcess]

These were very good results for the Cyberbeast and should put to rest all the: Can’t get stated range.

The fact is there are a lot of people buying this truck who just want the attention from it, drive like maniacs and then get pissed when they o my get 220 miles.

I am impressed to be honest,

RIP Silverado and F-150

 

[scottf200]

I represent the significant portion of consumers who are purchasing a Cybertruck for urban driving, essentially utilizing it as a multifunctional SUV. The appeal lies in its versatility, which allows it to serve as a robust city vehicle while offering the added utility and features of an SUV.

Fair point and it is not lost on me.

Saw this very recently:

"American pickup trucks have evolved! Once known for their spacious beds and rugged functionality, they’re now embracing larger cabins and comfort, becoming the go-to family ?‍?‍?‍? car across North America. ?️? From hauling to carpooling, pickups are driving the modern family forward."​

 

[HaulingAss]

Uhh... Covered wagon?

A covered wagon, with a cruising speed of 2-3 mph, and a weight of 1,300 lbs. empty, and a loaded weight of only 6,000 lbs, had very minimal energy needs. A BEV powertrain with solar panels covering it could travel at 2-3 mph whenever the sun was shining.

The non-sensical energy usage occurs when you have a 30-foot home on wheels being dragged through the air at 65 mph. It's ridiculous when you think about it. Only cheap gasoline ever made it a "thing".

 

[Cyber Man]

? ? ? LMFAO!

Wrong parameters were quoted, folks! A Silverado with a 215 kWh battery pack? Well butter my backside and call me a biscuit, that's just pure comedy gold right there!

Can you imagine the sheer size and heft that poor truck would have to be lugging around? It'd be like strapping a pair of lead zeppelins to the chassis! The suspension would be crying uncle before you even made it out of the driveway.

And let's not forget about charging times. With a battery that massively oversized, you'd be plugged in for days on end just to top it up. Might as well pack a sleeping bag and tent, because you're essentially moving into that charging station for a long weekend staycation.

"Hey honey, I'm just popping out for some errands, be back in about 72 hours when this bad boy is juiced up again!"

Meanwhile, the Cybertruck Beast is an absolute unit with its svelte and lightweight 123 kWh battery. Efficient, powerful, and ready to ramble without needing pit stops more frequently than a transcontinental road trip.

Anyone claiming the Silverado has the "best range" must be hitting the battery acid a little too hard, if you know what I mean. Unless by "range" they mean "the range of my strength to heft this lead-lined monstrosity out of the driveway." In which case, kudos for that impressive display!

No thanks, I'll stick with the reasonably-sized power plant that doesn't require cranes and reinforced concrete foundations everywhere I go. Living that 215 kWh "best range" life seems like an awfully cumbersome way to go about things!

Well said!

I don’t understand why content creators use performance model for range test and AWD for performance test (off roading, etc.).

The graph should be pivoted on meeting/exceeding/below expectations, not the max range! So stupid, and people buy it. First of all expected range is not accurate, and on top of that we have misrepresented data; nevertheless, CT aced it by meeting expectations. With great charging network and 300+ range, I have zero range concerns with CT.

We did road trip from west coast to Austin in my friends Model 3 with 220+ average range. I absolutely had the best experience. We did weekend camping in Kia EV. Absolutely worst experience in terms of charging. Content creators should really do extensive long road trips in Tesla cars to appreciate the supercharging network, but instead some try splitting hairs with 10-20 miles range.

 

[Chip Geek]

A covered wagon, with a cruising speed of 2-3 mph, and a weight of 1,300 lbs. empty, and a loaded weight of only 6,000 lbs, had very minimal energy needs. A BEV powertrain with solar panels covering it could travel at 2-3 mph whenever the sun was shining.

The non-sensical energy usage occurs when you have a 30-foot home on wheels being dragged through the air at 65 mph. It's ridiculous when you think about it. Only cheap gasoline ever made it a "thing".

Hey - I've got no argument against what you're saying. I was just pointing out your original statement was not entirely true the way it was worded. A partial and poorly executed attempt at humor on my part.

there is no historical counterpart for travelling in this manner, throughout all of human history.

And fairly off-point but, I know someone who sold their house and lives in a RV full time now so that they can visit family in different parts of the country when the seasons are favorable. Moving about 4-5 times a year - not every weekend.

 

[pricedm]

One reason this test is flawed is due to variation in OEM tire choice.

Rivian demonstrates this with significant range difference between the 21 inch "road" and 20 inch "A/T" tires on the same model.

Cybertruck in this test has A/T tires. All other trucks have road/highway tires, with lower friction and hence higher range as a basic function of tread design. The Cybertruck does suprisingly well at higher speeds. Looks like Lars Moravy and the tire engineers at Tesla really did achieve somthing great with the tire compound.

I would like to see a range test of the Cybertruck with a highway oriented tire like MICHELIN DEFENDER LTX M/S Might add range, might not, based on the engineering that went into Cybertruck's OEM tire.

 

[firsttruck]

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Of course, my entire life I've had a dim view of people towing homes on wheels behind them, wherever they go. If you understand the energy required, it's kind of a ridiculous activity, when you stop and think about it. It's an activity that has been enabled and encouraged by cheap gas and there is no historical counterpart for travelling in this manner, throughout all of human history.

Uhh... Covered wagon?

Those in the covered wagons weren't just going on vacation and very few had any picnics.
Many had a trip that definitely were not a picnic.

Those in the covered wagons were moving (if they stopped moving before reaching a destination they probably had died of accident/injury or died of starvation/thirst/heat-stroke/hypothermia or were murdered).

 

[Tedacules]

Dumb range (giant battery with less efficient truck)

is still range. Plus a bigger battery can mean a better charging curve (i havent looked at the curve for silveraydo but I think hummer ev has a great curve). If you are towing or road tripping the silveraydo may be the best bet because dumb range gets hurt the least when it comes to those things.

In CT, if you take away some efficiency by towing or opening the tonneau or something, the range tanks.

I am excited to see a range test in the all season tires though.j

Don't waste your money on the range extender you don't need it.

 

[Gurule92]

Don't waste your money on the range extender you don't need it.

Oh I won't. It would weight down my imaginary Cybertruck ? ?

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