Non-PowerShare home power

[Woodrick]

Running the AC is doable, but as others have said, it depends on how long you want to run it and the specs of the AC. I recently had variable speed ACs installed (unrelated to CT purchase). I can run two at a time. Practically, would just move the family into master bedroom and run the small unit that runs that room. It peaks at 6A. With variable speed, most of the time it’s running far less than that draw.

Running 75% of the lights in my house, 2 TVs, Wi-Fi and 2 fridges, I was running right around 1kW, if I recall correctly. If you were trying to conserve power for a prolonged outage, the truck would run the stuff for many many days.

That looks so much like the correctly named "suicide cord" that should never be used.

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[CyberTW]

That looks so much like the correctly named "suicide cord" that should never be used.

How so if you don’t mind me asking? The cords seem to look similar

 

[Carlos Thomas]

#FakeNews

That is not a suicide cord. That is a same set-up if you had a generator. The Cybertruck in that photo is attached to the Generator Inlet Box. Inside of the main panel, there more than likely is a "interlock" kit, which is like $20. This insures you do not have your main panel switch on while using the Cybertruck as a generator.

This looks like a:

• 15 foot cord ($80)
• Generator Inlet Box ($40)
• Interlock Kit ($20)
• 6/3 AWG Wiring to connect the Panel to the Generator Box ($40)

All in you are looking at $180 plus $100 electric permit if you are trying to stay on the right side of the law. 2 hours of labor tops. If you are paying someone $125 per hour, then your in for another $250.

So all in $530 on the low end. If you do it yourself, $180 in supplies.

 

[Woodrick]

How so if you don’t mind me asking? The cords seem to look similar

I'm not quite sure what you are asking.

But just to go through the explanation, it appears that this cord is plugged into the house with a male plug, which is the same that is in the truck.
This makes this cord deadly, because if you plug it into the truck, then there are live, exposed, deadly blades on the other end.

It's hard to see what's on the other side of the meter, but I hope that it is a transfer switch, but I'm guessing that it may not be.

At least with a generator, the electrical linemen can hear that it is running and that it is possible for some idiot to have it incorrectly installed. It's "deadly" quiet with the Cybertruck.

I REALLY hope that I'm wrong and that is indeed a female plug into a male socket with transfer switch. The correct way to do it.

 

[Woodrick]

#FakeNews

That is not a suicide cord. That is a same set-up if you had a generator. The Cybertruck in that photo is attached to the Generator Inlet Box. Inside of the main panel, there more than likely is a "interlock" kit, which is like $20. This insures you do not have your main panel switch on while using the Cybertruck as a generator.

This looks like a:

• 15 foot cord ($80)
• Generator Inlet Box ($40)
• Interlock Kit ($20)
• 6/3 AWG Wiring to connect the Panel to the Generator Box ($40)

All in you are looking at $180 plus $100 electric permit if you are trying to stay on the right side of the law. 2 hours of labor tops. If you are paying someone $125 per hour, then your in for another $250.

So all in $530 on the low end. If you do it yourself, $180 in supplies.

How do you know? Have you seen @Texarado 's installation?

I see an outlet next to the meter. There is indeed another box on the other side, but it looks more like a telco plastic box than a transfer switch.
It also appears to be in the exact spot that a NEMA 14-50 would have been installed for a camper.

The main panel is nowhere to be seen.

Again, I hope I'm wrong, but the details in the picture are suspect.

 

[CyberTW]

I'm not quite sure what you are asking.

But just to go through the explanation, it appears that this cord is plugged into the house with a male plug, which is the same that is in the truck.
This makes this cord deadly, because if you plug it into the truck, then there are live, exposed, deadly blades on the other end.

It's hard to see what's on the other side of the meter, but I hope that it is a transfer switch, but I'm guessing that it may not be.

At least with a generator, the electrical linemen can hear that it is running and that it is possible for some idiot to have it incorrectly installed. It's "deadly" quiet with the Cybertruck.

I REALLY hope that I'm wrong and that is indeed a female plug into a male socket with transfer switch. The correct way to do it.

That answers it… I didn’t notice the details you were noticing

 

[Carlos Thomas]

I am just guessing. I am guessing there is a panel with a interlock kit installed on it. Also, with houses like that...the main panel is normally on the inside of the garage wall with the Generator Inlet Box on the outside to go to a generator. But in this case, the Cybertruck is the generator. Hopefully they are set up properly.

 

[Woodrick]

That answers it… I didn’t notice the details you were noticing

For some reason I have this thing about trying to make sure that when most people are uninformed about something, and that something is possibly dangerous, I try to speak up.

And "generator cheat" or "suicide cords" are definitely on that list.

When I see pictures like this, I do tend to look closely. I don't want people to think that it is "okay" to do it that way.

Me? I've got 60kW outside with dual 200A transfer switches for each of my panels.
It wasn't cheap, but it is safe!

It used to be not as big of a problem. If someone wanted to create one, they had to put it together manually. Still deadly. But today, you can find offshore manufacturers who don't give a crap about NEC Code and they will sale them online, in nice, molded packages.

Suicide cords:

 

[sefar]

But it would be enough to switch on central HVAC, fridge and a few things like internet?

why manually touched? Basically open the truck?
Thanks for the response!

according to the electrician who came to my house today, NO. The Powershare switch maxes out at 48a per him. So most things except HVAC could run. He said it is the same for the Ford Lightning, but manufacturers aren't talking about the limits.

 

[Jager]

It's impossible to say from the picture alone. But I agree with @Woodrick. That doesn't look at all like any kind of generator inlet box I've ever seen. If I had to guess, I'd say it's probably a NEMA 14-50 outlet.

 

[Paul Scott]

But it would be enough to switch on central HVAC, fridge and a few things like internet?

why manually touched? Basically open the truck?
Thanks for the response!

I believe the 240v outlet can only output about 40 amps. The PowerShare Can output 11.5kwh continuous or 48 amps. Startup for an AC unit will depend on the size of the unit and LRA (Locked Rotor Amps) rating needed to startup the unit.

My house for instance can pull about 9 kWh with both AC running normal house loads. The Powerwalls I already have can supply 10 kWh and the 11.5 kWh from the truck should be more than enough to power the whole house.

 

[CyberGus]

PowerShare lists the LRA limit for AC as 110. I installed a soft-start which gets that down to about 30A.

I've not actually tried it, tho.

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