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500 miles is already awesome .. 560 is just icing on the cake. I’m sure Tesla could go higher yet, but why? At some point it makes more sense to pump out more trucks instead of increasing battery size further.
 

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500 miles is already awesome .. 560 is just icing on the cake. I’m sure Tesla could go higher yet, but why? At some point it makes more sense to pump out more trucks instead of increasing battery size further.
At some point, yes, but pretty much everyone agreed with @MUSK007 that range is king, and I would say that range anxiety while towing a heavy [something] would drive a lot of people's interests. If the CT had a range high enough that someone could tow a reasonable size/weight trailer for 250-300 miles then that might be the limit you are referring to. Then of course for all other scenarios the truck would have more than enough. People reserving the tri-motor are overwhelmingly looking at range and towing capacity so that has to be the focus.
 

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500 miles is already awesome .. 560 is just icing on the cake. I’m sure Tesla could go higher yet, but why? At some point it makes more sense to pump out more trucks instead of increasing battery size further.
560 is better but not enough for many truck users.

The problem is towing range. This is not a big problem with cars.
Cars have a range sweet spot at around 300-350 miles at highway speeds. This is long enough for most drivers to need a break and a good recharge can be done during the break.

A truck that is towing needs to do the same.
Tow 300-350 miles at highway speeds.
If the trailer is not going to assist by providing extra batteries, then the non-towing range of the batteries in the truck will probably need to be 650-700 miles.
 

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have a range sweet spot at around 300-350 miles (at freeway speeds)...
This is untrue. Although you'll want to use only about 70-80% of your pack capacity for safety and weather sake... You really shouldn't be driving for five to six hours without a stop. Studies show that the sweet spot for safety is two hours of driving. (I wish I could link to that study, but I can only find reference). The four hours of uninterrupted driving is a compromise.

-Crissa

(But that doesn't mean trucks shouldn't have long ranges. Just that the argument is wrong.)
 

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Thanks for the question.

Work trucks, and recreational trucks, need to be able to tow larger trailers in all conditions including cold weather, long days, mountainous terrains. This could potentially cut the range in half.

Many locales, states, areas have few, if any charging stations. They will be built, yet the point is this they are not there now or in the immediate future. Range Awareness is key and remains an issue. Let's simply blast past this to gain more consumers.

What may be needed is a smaller lighter battery pack for the local commuter and light duty use.

And then a large, 1000 mile range for the heavy usage, trailer towing, commercial use vehicles.

In order to achieve an EV vehicle world, part of the equation is to convince the mass potential market to convert their ICE vehicles to EV. To do this and also for Tesla to be the leader of this Cost, Durability, Capacity and Ease of use "Range" are key to Marketing this product to the masses.

Elon, I hope your staff is listening, because the Pickup market could be yours in one Fell Swoop.
Maybe in the US charging areas are a problem..... around here they are springing up everywhere. I suspect people don't know how many are really out there, which would put to rest unfounded concerns over areas to charge.
 

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Maybe in the US charging areas are a problem..... around here they are springing up everywhere. I suspect people don't know how many are really out there, which would put to rest unfounded concerns over areas to charge.
I suspect people don’t look at the maps or do route planning to non-urban areas. Look at Tesla’s own SC map. Look at all that white. Using ABRP app, If I want to visit my brother in Idaho I have ONE route I can drive. If a highway is closed due to accident, weather, etc., then I’m screwed. Too often folks look only at their own circumstances and fail to comprehend the realities of others.
 

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Maybe in the US charging areas are a problem..... around here they are springing up everywhere. I suspect people don't know how many are really out there, which would put to rest unfounded concerns over areas to charge.
It's the same in Nova Scotia. By next year we'll have 4 superchargers, but because of the nature of Nova Scotia as a long narrow land mass that means you're never more than 100km from an SC, and they're all at Big Stops, the largest gas stations around with restaurants, liquor stores and Timmies right of the highway. They're the easiest spots to stop right now with my gas car, so it's really not an issue.
 
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I suspect people don’t look at the maps or do route planning to non-urban areas. Look at Tesla’s own SC map. Look at all that white. Using ABRP app, If I want to visit my brother in Idaho I have ONE route I can drive. If a highway is closed due to accident, weather, etc., then I’m screwed. Too often folks look only at their own circumstances and fail to comprehend the realities of others.
Same issues in Oregon. We enjoy heading out into the wilderness for hikes. A full 25% of my state is a Supercharger no man's land.

There are 3 proposed/future Superchargers I really want to become a reality: Newport, Madras and Burns. Boardman would be nice too.
 
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Maybe in the US charging areas are a problem..... around here they are springing up everywhere. I suspect people don't know how many are really out there, which would put to rest unfounded concerns over areas to charge.
Wait I'm confused. What do you mean by "around here"? Your info says you are in Prince George, the nearest supercharger is over 500km away.
 

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Wait I'm confused. What do you mean by "around here"? Your info says you are in Prince George, the nearest supercharger is over 500km away.
PG guy may not realize most of those "fast chargers" being installed up north by BC hydro and the province are only 50kw. You'll be sitting for hours charging a 200kwh battery.
 

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Same issues in Oregon. We enjoy heading out into the wilderness for hikes. A full 25% of my state is a Supercharger no man's land.

There are 3 proposed/future Superchargers I really want to become a reality: Newport, Madras and Burns. Boardman would be nice too.
They do have Bandon and Lincoln City, so the route is covered, but highway corners like Coos Bay and Newport are good places, too, even if they're just four-slots (hopefully pull-throughs). Burns would make going the back way to Nevada or Idaho easier, too.

Those are good suggestions. Those are all good corners of trips without returning - over the mountains - to the I-5 valley.

But once they have the routes, it's time to start adding in four-slot into these corners of the country between the routes.
 

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