More 500-mile range rumors!

[Jhodgesatmb]

have confirmed it wasn’t the test driver that relayed this info, if anyone did

I went looking for the original posting on Twitter and it seems that the OP was someone that was taking their Tesla in for routine maintenance and happened to see the 2 Cybertrucks, and that it was someone at the service center that told her about Cybertruck power and range, very likely quoting the webpage. So, not factual at all, any more than any other postings we have read.

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[JBee]

The comments you should be wary of, and take with a large grain of salt, are those of @cvalue13 , not an actual Tesla Cybertruck test driver. Because he has a long history of talking about things he has little understanding of.

That said, I don't think the 500 miles range comment came from the Baja test driver, but rather a low-level employee at the Service Center who was simply re-iterating the specs provided during the release event. Given the reporting to date, it's inconclusive who uttered the 500-mile range comment.

However, we know Elon has claimed 500+ miles range, and he has a strong history of hitting his stated targets, even if sometimes late. Without Elon retracting the 500+ mile range target, we can expect it to be hit, even if it comes a year or so after initial production of a mid-range 300+ mile version (which is actually considered long-range by the industry). Anything over 300 miles is long range, 500+ miles is well beyond "long-range".

Rather be certain you know a little truth about something meaningful, than a lot of baloney about nothing at all though, right? Lol.

What's with the sideswipes? Stay in your lane bro. How about some cold hard facts instead, otherwise it just sounds like you professionally write articles for TMZ.

 

[PilotPete]

Tesla doesn't have any vehicles that have 400 miles or more of range currently. How are they jumping up to 500 miles of range, with a bigger, heavier vehicle, using the current 4680s?

Ummmmm....

 

[anionic1]

Weights are off.

Nope. The model s 100 kWh battery pack weighs 1377 lbs. and that’s not a glue filled heavy metal encased structural pack. So just the cell modules at 200 kWh would be 2754 lbs. how much do you think the added glue and steel weighs. Probably gets close to 3000 lbs

 

[CyberGus]

Nope. The model s 100 kWh battery pack weighs 1377 lbs. and that’s not a glue filled heavy metal encased structural pack. So just the cell modules at 200 kWh would be 2754 lbs. how much do you think the added glue and steel weighs. Probably gets close to 3000 lbs

Doesn’t the weight of the pack include the electronics? Does the shell and electronics weigh twice as much when there are 2x cells?

 

[anionic1]

Doesn’t the weight of the pack include the electronics? Does the shell and electronics weigh twice as much when there are 2x cells?

Probably pretty close.

Doesn’t the weight of the pack include the electronics? Does the shell and electronics weigh twice as much when there are 2x cells?

I just read the weight of the hummer ev pack with a 205 kWh pack is about 2818 lbs. and that’s not a glue filled structural pack. Anyway, the point is that a 200 kWh pack is going to be a LOT of weight. I would be amazed if they could get the overall weight under 7000 lbs on that trim.

 

[CyberGus]

Probably pretty close.

I just read the weight of the hummer ev pack with a 205 kWh pack is about 2818 lbs. and that’s not a glue filled structural pack. Anyway, the point is that a 200 kWh pack is going to be a LOT of weight. I would be amazed if they could get the overall weight under 7000 lbs on that trim.

Glue must be very dense on your planet

 

[TheLastStarfighter]

One of the biggest advantages of 4680 cells is weight savings. Expect the cybertruck to weigh much less than the competition, and achieve a 500 mile range with a battery smaller than 200kWh.

 

[PilotPete]

I just read the weight of the hummer ev pack with a 205 kWh pack is about 2818 lbs. and that’s not a glue filled structural pack. Anyway, the point is that a 200 kWh pack is going to be a LOT of weight. I would be amazed if they could get the overall weight under 7000 lbs on that trim.

If you create a structural battery pack, you may be adding some weight. But you’re doing that to eliminate MORE weight somewhere else. Yes, a 200kWh pack is not something you carry like a briefcase. But if for every 1# you add, you subtract 1.5# elsewhere on the vehicle, you’re lighter than the competition, not heavier. Same think applies to the structure of the entire vehicle, Exo or not,

 

[intimidator]

Ummmmm....

So how do they get from 405 miles of range to 500 miles of range, with a truck versus this slick, aero friendly sedan?

Physics are against you. The worst aero design you have, it requires exponentially more energy to overcome the drag.

I would love, love my Cybertruck to have 500 miles of range. I just don't see how they can pull it off.

PS During the summer the rumor was Tesla would announce the specs at the end of August. Then it was the end of September. Now we all think it will be November. C'mon, Tesla, what will the range be!

 

[intimidator]

One of the biggest advantages of 4680 cells is weight savings. Expect the cybertruck to weigh much less than the competition, and achieve a 500 mile range with a battery smaller than 200kWh.

I will take that bet.
And we will know by the end of November.

(and I hope, hope I am wrong and Tesla has some magic dust)

 

[PilotPete]

So how do they get from 405 miles of range to 500 miles of range, with a truck versus this slick, aero friendly sedan?

Physics are against you. The worst aero design you have, it requires exponentially more energy to overcome the drag.

I would love, love my Cybertruck to have 500 miles of range. I just don't see how they can pull it off.

PS During the summer the rumor was Tesla would announce the specs at the end of August. Then it was the end of September. Now we all think it will be November. C'mon, Tesla, what will the range be!

Agreed that a higher cd makes reaching 500 miles harder. But your statement was “Tesla doesn't have any vehicles that have 400 miles or more of range currently” That isn’t true.

As for the 500 miles, those that want to crap on the concept start with things like “They can’t go all the way back because of the cover storage” or “they can’t because…” I’ll say this again, you have an entire company (3 or 4 really) who have made their mark doing exactly what the industry says you can’t do. If they haven’t proven that to you yet, I can’t help you. If they can beat the industry engineers, they can beat us.

As for your P.S., you said it yourself, “…the rumor was…” You can hope for a rumor, but don’t hang your hopes on that. It’s not in Tesla‘s best interest to announce early. Get it right the first time.

 

[HaulingAss]

I will take that bet.
And we will know by the end of November.

(and I hope, hope I am wrong and Tesla has some magic dust)

The 500+ mile range version was slated to be released last, not first. My point is, I doubt you will know the weight of the 500+ mile version by the end of next month!

 

[scottf200]

So how do they get from 405 miles of range to 500 miles of range, with a truck versus this slick, aero friendly sedan?

Physics are against you. The worst aero design you have, it requires exponentially more energy to overcome the drag.

I would love, love my Cybertruck to have 500 miles of range. I just don't see how they can pull it off.

PS During the summer the rumor was Tesla would announce the specs at the end of August. Then it was the end of September. Now we all think it will be November. C'mon, Tesla, what will the range be!

Your post are really confusing. Isn't the obvious answer to add more kWhs?

 

[intimidator]

You post are really confusing. Isn't the obvious answer is to add more kWhs?

That adds a ton of weight, and a ton of cost.
It is possible in theory.

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